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326:. My understanding of what happened is that "crisis" was adopted because there was so much going on in Honduras beyond the seizure of power itself by the Micheletti faction (what has been termed the "coup"), but that the prevailing international view that there had been a "coup" had not been rejected. This is why the first line of the main article reads "The 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis or the 2009 Honduran coup d'état..." In any case, I don't want to see what's been put on this page deleted. If the page must be deleted, the information contained on the page should be transferred back to the main article. 283:
Except that the main article has been renamed as "constitutional crisis" only as a compromise, with part of the compromise being that it should have a "coup d'état section". It also says it's called a coup d'état in the first line. Part of the reasoning was basically that "constitutional crisis"
423:, which a highly vocal group of editors subsequently succeeding forcing a rename of, despite a lack of clear consensus. The nominator's insistence that the same disputed renaming arguments apply to this page has not met with support on the talk page, and this deletion nomination is the result. 253:- the subject is notable and encyclopedic, so the question isn't whether the information be deleted, but where it should be presented. Given the amount of detail put into it, I'm thinking keeping it separate would probably be best, but if it can be trimmed down and merged, thats fine too. 76: 383:. This page personally helped me to better understand the events of the coup. Its not a POV fork (although there may be POV in the article, I don't know), its a helpful page that better details the events of the first coup in Latin America in decades. 103: 98: 107: 90: 143:
POV fork, having argued successfully to remove coup from the title of the main article a certain editor created this POV fork in order to reinsert the coup POV. Knowledge (XXG) has no place for POV forks. Thanks,
94: 285: 86: 66: 419:. This is a disruptive and misleading nomination by an editor who keeps renaming the article against consensus. The article is not a POV fork but a subarticle; it was spun off from 136: 151: 227: 444: 427: 411: 394: 375: 335: 318: 297: 274: 262: 244: 217: 59: 270:- This seems to be an encyclopedic article covering notable events. Coup d'état to Constitutional Crisis would mean it was in line with the main article on the event. 366: 343:. I think it's a good idea for Knowledge (XXG) to have detail about the coup. This was the first Latin American military coup in a long time. 435:
Unless the nominator explains why he considers the article a "POV fork". Disagreement on the article's title is no reason for deletion.
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This is disingenuous: "having argued successfully to remove coup from the title of the main article a certain editor created this".
180:(as hinted by the fact you moved it a couple of times), that's a different issue not warranting deletion. When this article 402:
If kept, this must be renamed. Since the removal of the president appears to be constitutional and legal, it's not a coup.
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would encompass more than just the "coup d'état" events; on the other hand, I think this article (and also the one about
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
192:, not "constitutional crisis", so it simply cannot have been a "POV fork in order to reinsert the coup POV". -- 35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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289: 209: 193: 288:, which keeps getting renamed, too) really is about the coup d'état. -- 452:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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International reaction to the 2009 Honduran military coup
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309:but may require cleanup - it is getting long also. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 462:). No further edits should be made to this page. 228:list of Politics-related deletion discussions 8: 222: 226:: This debate has been included in the 200:) 15:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC) Actually, 74: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 164:2009 Honduran constitutional crisis 73: 251:Keep/Merge with the parent article 24: 168:was otherwise becoming too long 1: 186:had the "coup d'état" title 479: 445:13:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 428:09:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 421:2009 Honduran coup d'etat 412:06:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 395:04:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 376:04:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 347:A certain editor created 336:02:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 319:02:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 298:18:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC) 275:18:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC) 263:17:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC) 245:15:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC) 218:13:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 152:15:07, 25 July 2009 (UTC) 60:16:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC) 455:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 72:AfDs for this article: 184:, the main article 369:." Same "POV". -- 65: 247: 231: 170:(was tagged with 470: 457: 391: 388: 373: 238: 232: 134: 128: 110: 34: 478: 477: 473: 472: 471: 469: 468: 467: 466: 460:deletion review 453: 389: 386: 371: 361:This is not a " 268:Keep and rename 236: 130: 101: 85: 82: 70: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 476: 474: 465: 464: 448: 447: 430: 414: 397: 378: 360: 346: 344: 338: 321: 303: 302: 301: 300: 278: 277: 265: 248: 220: 141: 140: 81: 80: 79: 71: 69: 64: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 475: 463: 461: 456: 450: 449: 446: 442: 438: 434: 431: 429: 426: 422: 418: 415: 413: 409: 405: 401: 398: 396: 393: 392: 382: 379: 377: 374: 368: 364: 359: 356: 353: 350: 342: 339: 337: 333: 329: 328:Zachary Klaas 325: 322: 320: 316: 312: 308: 305: 304: 299: 295: 291: 287: 282: 281: 280: 279: 276: 273: 269: 266: 264: 260: 256: 252: 249: 246: 243: 240: 239: 229: 225: 221: 219: 215: 211: 207: 203: 199: 195: 191: 187: 183: 179: 178: 173: 172:Template:Long 169: 165: 161: 160: 156: 155: 154: 153: 150: 147: 138: 133: 126: 122: 118: 114: 109: 105: 100: 96: 92: 88: 84: 83: 78: 75: 68: 63: 62: 61: 57: 53: 49: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 454: 451: 432: 416: 404:76.66.192.64 399: 385: 380: 354: 348: 340: 323: 306: 267: 250: 237:Juliancolton 234: 223: 201: 175: 158: 157: 142: 45: 43: 31: 28: 433:Speedy keep 417:Speedy keep 367:Coup d'état 255:Umbralcorax 202:speedy keep 190:in the text 182:was created 159:Strong keep 311:SYSS Mouse 52:Beeblebrox 146:SqueakBox 46:Keep per 363:POV fork 166:, which 137:View log 400:Comment 351:article 208:#2.4 -- 104:protect 99:history 48:WP:SNOW 390:pearls 355:before 132:delete 108:delete 425:Rd232 272:Panyd 206:WP:SK 177:title 135:) – ( 125:views 117:watch 113:links 16:< 441:talk 437:JRSP 408:talk 381:Keep 372:Rico 349:this 341:Keep 332:talk 324:Keep 315:talk 307:Keep 294:talk 259:talk 233:-- – 224:Note 214:talk 204:per 198:talk 188:and 149:talk 121:logs 95:talk 91:edit 56:talk 387:Ono 290:LjL 210:LjL 194:LjL 443:) 410:) 334:) 317:) 296:) 261:) 241:| 230:. 216:) 123:| 119:| 115:| 111:| 106:| 102:| 97:| 93:| 58:) 439:( 406:( 330:( 313:( 292:( 257:( 212:( 196:( 139:) 129:( 127:) 89:( 54:(

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Chronology of events of the 2009 Honduran coup d'état
Articles for deletion/Chronology of events of the 2009 Honduran coup d'état
Chronology of events of the 2009 Honduran coup d'état
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