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also says, "An independent interviewer represents the "world at large" giving attention to the subject, and as such, interviews as a whole contribute to the basic concept of notability. The material provided to the interview by the interviewer and the publication is secondary.... Interviews show a
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The CBC interview is a softball Q&A allowing the Desjardins to say anything she likes about herself. The interviewer was there just to keep the individual talking, not to introduce their own thoughts. These kinds of interviews are broadly unhelpful in establishing notability. That's all in
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As for Magazin'Art, that's an interview, with an introduction that mentions how she's often mentioned by blogs and webzines : "régulièrement mentionnée sur un grand nombre de webzines et de blogues influents". Those are precisely the kind of sources that we do not take seriously.
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wide range of attention being given to the subject and should be weighted accordingly." It most certainly does not say that interviews are not evidence of Notability, which is what you and your cherry-picked quotation imply.
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very poor sourcing, large sections of the article are unsourced, and most of the material is written by someone with a very close (if undisclosed) connection to the subject as evidenced by the photos. The only
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I have seriously looked through the policies and essays I can find, but I don't see why an interview in a Montreal art magazine wouldn't count for the notability of a Montreal artist. Care to enlighten me?
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It is literally on the first page of the linked Google search. Notability decisions for deletion are supposed to be based on actual notability, not just what is in the article. Thus the requirement in
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familiar with the CBC's coverage. In their regional programming, they'll covert the most trivial subjects, like
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Most of the sources are simply profiles, interviews or announcements. Granted, I found a decent source
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says that "If it's primary, our guidelines make clear that it does not contribute to notability."
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Fair point, but google results are not the same for everyone. Why not add the reference?
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local coverage in English Montreal. So much so that we don't even see it in
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applies in the way Mduvekot suggests: this is an arts interview on
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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I don't see a reference to the CBC. Am I missing something?
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cred. Somebody just needs to rewrite the article. :)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –
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