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216:. Ignoring that, it doesn't really give much to assert its notability. To be honest, neither of the other articles really do that anyway, but generally lists (or list-like articles, in their cases) are given a bit of the benefit of the doubt. Plus, I think those two articles probably have more benefits to being merged if we were to have away with them, and I can see them being used as redirects. This, I feel would be less used. 267:
anything that is useful - I really feel AfD is not the right vehicle for this. It seems like it would be a shoo-in for a merge as you are fundamentally correct that it is redundant. Probably would have been best handled as a merge discussion of the affected pages before bringing it to AfD. -
356:, but not much else. On the differences between the two: they're basically two different games. The basic idea (you have clans, which are classes, and you have three different Disciplines) are the same, but the games don't have enough in common to really justify making one group article. 332:
I actually don't rightly know; my exposure to WoD and the differences between the two is limited. Which only contributes to my feeling that any reorganization would be best handled as merge discussions on the talk pages by editors more familiar with the subject matter. -
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Fair enough. However, given all the recent deletions, I don't think anything would really suit it as a merge now. There are some basic things that can be put into a "the RPG is played as such" section in the pages for
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clans. I feel like pointing this out in case anyone thinks I've just been personally offended by the pages and want to delete them all; for the record, I haven't and I don't. –
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criteria, so it should not exist as a standalone article. I don't care what else happens to it. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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clans. Sure, they're both roughly like WoD classes and some of them have the same name, but
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Where exactly will we redirect it to? I mean, you can't exactly go with
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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In all honesty, if this is kept, it will just redirect to
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I did recently go on a redirecting spree with the main 13
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