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425:, and by 1997 every club was paying for weekly statistical reports, if only for $ 5000 a season. (These days, a full suite of products can cost almost $ 100,000 a season.) In 1998, the company won an AFL licence to deliver statistics, a deal driven by the creation of AFL.com.au and which allowed them to expand. 283: 574:
policy, I'm not really convinced that we're barred from having articles on sports terminology; indeed, we have a great many articles on other things of this sort. This term is heavily used in coverage of Australian rules football, and explaining its meaning can lead to expansion into a full
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You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Although Champion Data do provide the stats for fantasy leagues, they are also the official statisticians of the AFL and all AFL clubs. I will quote verbatim from the reference I added to the article
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needed a new vernacular for his new stats, and the names he came up with ("Hard ball gets", "The Clanger", etc) quickly became part of the football lexicon.
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OK, "part of the football lexicon". Where? Show me that and I'm perfectly happy. Until then it's verging on the something someone made up I'm afraid.
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I can't see anything that makes it so. I'm very happy to change my mind once that notability's shown, but until then I'm still at delete, OK?
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They're perfect then! The only question is whether it falls into the dictionary category. I'd imagine that there's mileage though.
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Yes, it has definitely entered the football lexicon. Just did a google news search for the term "clanger + AFL" (see
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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OK, so I'd expect to see it in use somewhere - somewhere where's it's being cited for example. So, maybe,
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encyclopedia article. As a result, I really don't see any major problems with retaining this article.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Whether this is what you were looking for in terms of proof of notability is up to you.
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Isn't this just a variation on the general term "(s)he dropped a clanger"? (which I get
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this use of "clanger" seems to be ubiquitous, as if just to mock me. Aaaarrgh! --
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and its subcats, there seems to be precedent to keep articles such as this one.
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for) Unless there's a very specific reference within Aussie rules (as, say, in
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The terminology sold the technology. Reams of data weren't enough -
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
521:) and "of the 700 disposals, 200 were ineffective or clangers" ( 373:(the leading company for statistics recording in AFL). 112: 108: 104: 168: 369:
Yes, it is a specific type of statistic recorded by
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