431:. Its my understanding that Claranet is now, and has always been, a minor company. The BBC article only tangentially references Claranet, and is really about UK millionaires. And having only 150K accounts in two countries with a population of likely over 100 million really demonstrates their minor status. A company should not be included on Knowledge just because some people have heard about it, or may have used it in the past. Clarenet's listing needs to be supported by more relative & actual referenced articles.
414:, and please note the BBC news cite I have just added. Just because it may now be unimportant as an ISP, in the 1990s it was well known, at least in Germany when Compuserve was my ISP. Just because not much can be written about it - meaning it may remain a stub - is no reason to delete it. Unless a suitable merge destination exists, it can stay a well-referenced stub. -
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236:. Yes, that's from my personal knowledge, and no, I haven't yet provided any sources for it, so I haven't made a bolded "keep" recommendation, but I'm suggesting it as an area in which we should look for sources before making any decision about the disposition of the article. I'm surprised that, when the nominator was reading through
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360:. I looked through the Google results and found nothing notable to add to their Knowledge page, so that is why I added them to Articles for deletion page. I think we can both agree that the web hosting/domain registration portion and the ISP portion of Claranet are very different businesses. In the document that Phil highlights
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