561:. This just isn't an encyclopaedia article. Re-written into more normal English, the article title would be "The characterisation of uncertainty in climate assessment" or "Uncertainty characterisation in climate assessment". On related article in the series on climate assessment might be "Model parameterisation in climate assessment". Another might be "Data processing in climate assessment". Interesting topics, perhaps, but not encyclopaedia articles. The family of "uncertainty characterisation" is even more vast. I don't think we should have articles on "Uncertainty characterisation in population estimates", or economic models, or population viability assessment, or "Uncertainty characterisation in estimates of Knowledge traffic". I don't think topics like these make for very good encyclopaedia articles.
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To address the concerns raised in this AfD process, I created a To Do list on the article talk page. I’ve performed over 45 article edits and 30 talk page comments (including ToDos). First, this article cannot be a POV fork: A) because the POV from what is forks was not discussed and B) no other
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this article seems to put forth a mostly novel topic. Even if there were citations, the research would still be synthesis of the sources, and unsuitable for
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In summary, I’ve improved the article and placed this AfD in a greater context. Given the contention for escalated disputes by long term editors in this project, the AfD reviewer(s) might be cautioned to seek a second opinion before acting. Wiki will be well served to keep this article.
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COI disagrees (William M. Connolley], the AFD complainer then drive by tags with no talk, and this AFD is unfounded in fact, the AFD should be dismissed. I request admin oversight for the possibly of disruptive editors who are not assuming good faith in the article.
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Bayesian probability, which ZP5 has been pushing elsewhere
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I'm an admin, even if I usually don't banter that around a lot. Good faith applies to editors, not to articles. And it is somewhat ironic that you complain about other peoples bad faith while demanding good faith yourself.
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