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309:. Insufficient coverage to demonstrate notability. A fairly low placing on a genre-specific chart based on specialist radio play is not in my view sufficient to establish notability on its own. Placing in a national singles/album chart that is based on sales would be good enough (in this case the Billboard Hot 100/Billboard 200), otherwise for these specialist charts, anything outside the top 10, while indicating that digging deeper may find something, needs to be backed up by some other claim to notability. My preference would be to only include national charts based on sales in notability criteria, but while a major nation such as the US still has national specialist charts based on airplay, I suppose we have to include them, but only the top 10-20, I think. My interpretation of a 'national chart' would be a nation's main sales-based chart, or one of multiple sales-based national charts in cases where there is not one representative national chart. -- 549:- The band may not be major, but I'll second HotHat there as I listed to KLOVE and they placed it quite a bit last summer. That, combined with the top-25 charting on Christian Songs is enough for an article for now. If there isn't any sort of news about these guys in a few years, it may be a good idea to delete. 163: 423:, criteria No. 2, when it states "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." It does not state that it has to be the highest chart for singles, which would be the Hot 100, rather it means any 286: 116: 603:
how is rotation on K-Love stations being shown in the article? There is a reference to a K-Love page that has some information on the band but mentions nothing about rotation.--
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Now, I found that MUSICBIO criteria No. 11, which states "Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network," and this has been proven by
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article on here in the first place? So, this means by virtue of the charts notability it lends credibility and notablity to the said article here in question.
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The Christian CHR...and Christian AC Indicator charts are compiled from playlist reports that stations playing those genres of music submit online.
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Taking this to AfD for consensus. Is a top-30 showing on a Christian song chart enough to pass muster under
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only lists the top ten tracks. I can't get into billboard.biz either. CHR isn't listed at .com at all. --
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charts and they have hit two of the song charts the way that our US national charting system does it.
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to electronically monitor over 140 radio markets in the U.S. The only other thing of note is that
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Every single billboard.biz link used as reference in that article is behind a paywall.
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notability is clearly established in the aforementioned article. Just look at
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Based on all this, I think it's fair to say that yes, it's a national chart.
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notability is not demonstrated in the article. Not clear how it might meet
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http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/christian-songs?chartDate=2011-07-22
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By the way, if it is not a notable chart then why do we have the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions
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I'm having problems verifying these claims as well.--
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No further edits should be made to this page. 496:- Going out on a limb, I think it doesn't meet 8: 285:Note: This debate has been included in the 284: 705:, since Christian chart doesn't count. 581:WP:BAND 2 supports their inclusion. -- 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 229:not a specific chart is what I read! 689:I may have to revise my statement. 24: 202:chart, which I'm not sure that 1: 715:01:55, 15 December 2012 (UTC) 681:01:43, 10 December 2012 (UTC) 504:to have an article about it. 382:14:55, 24 November 2012 (UTC) 347:00:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC) 319:16:05, 10 November 2012 (UTC) 59:07:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC) 653:23:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC) 634:20:34, 6 December 2012 (UTC) 613:01:32, 6 December 2012 (UTC) 591:01:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC) 567:00:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC) 542:00:07, 6 December 2012 (UTC) 520:15:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC) 485:05:25, 2 December 2012 (UTC) 457:21:34, 1 December 2012 (UTC) 437:21:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC) 410:16:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC) 299:15:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC) 278:07:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC) 239:06:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC) 220:03:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC) 753: 725:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 580: 500:, maybe it's just 225:National chart is 48:The result was 683: 578: 487: 384: 349: 301: 276: 57: 744: 727: 677: 671: 667: 632: 630: 562: 555: 518: 511: 508: 481: 475: 471: 378: 373: 367: 363: 343: 337: 333: 270: 266: 227:Billboard charts 218: 216: 189: 188: 174: 126: 114: 96: 73:Cloverton (band) 65:Cloverton (band) 56: 34: 752: 751: 747: 746: 745: 743: 742: 741: 740: 734:deletion review 723: 675: 660: 628: 625: 560: 553: 515: 509: 506: 479: 464: 445:Christian Songs 376: 371: 356: 341: 326: 262: 214: 211: 204:Christian Songs 131: 122: 87: 71: 68: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 750: 748: 739: 738: 718: 717: 695: 694: 686: 685: 684: 669: 668: 657: 656: 655: 637: 636: 618: 617: 616: 615: 594: 593: 583:Walter Görlitz 579:WP:MUSICBIO 11 572: 571: 570: 569: 544: 523: 522: 490: 489: 488: 473: 472: 461: 460: 459: 440: 439: 413: 412: 387: 386: 385: 365: 364: 353: 352: 351: 350: 335: 334: 323: 322: 321: 303: 302: 281: 280: 242: 241: 210:actually are. 192: 191: 128: 67: 62: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 749: 737: 735: 731: 726: 720: 719: 716: 712: 708: 704: 700: 697: 696: 692: 688: 687: 682: 679: 678: 670: 666: 664: 659: 658: 654: 650: 646: 642: 639: 638: 635: 631: 629:FreeRangeFrog 623: 620: 619: 614: 610: 606: 602: 598: 597: 596: 595: 592: 588: 584: 577: 574: 573: 568: 565: 564: 563: 557: 556: 548: 545: 543: 539: 535: 531: 527: 526: 525: 524: 521: 517: 514: 512: 503: 499: 495: 492: 491: 486: 483: 482: 474: 470: 468: 463: 462: 458: 454: 450: 446: 442: 441: 438: 434: 430: 426: 422: 418: 415: 414: 411: 407: 403: 400: 396: 392: 389: 388: 383: 380: 379: 374: 366: 362: 360: 355: 354: 348: 345: 344: 336: 332: 330: 325: 324: 320: 316: 312: 308: 305: 304: 300: 296: 292: 288: 283: 282: 279: 274: 271:(note: not a 269: 267: 265: 259: 255: 251: 248:According to 247: 244: 243: 240: 236: 232: 228: 224: 223: 222: 221: 217: 215:FreeRangeFrog 209: 208:Christian CHR 205: 201: 197: 187: 183: 180: 177: 173: 169: 165: 162: 159: 156: 153: 150: 147: 144: 141: 137: 134: 133:Find sources: 129: 125: 121: 118: 112: 108: 104: 100: 95: 91: 86: 82: 78: 74: 70: 69: 66: 63: 61: 60: 55: 54:Seraphimblade 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 724: 721: 698: 673: 661: 640: 621: 600: 575: 559: 552: 550: 546: 493: 477: 465: 424: 416: 390: 369: 357: 339: 327: 306: 264:I, Jethrobot 263: 257: 245: 199: 193: 181: 175: 167: 160: 154: 148: 142: 132: 119: 49: 47: 31: 28: 421:WP:MUSICBIO 307:Weak delete 254:Nielsen BDS 158:free images 730:talk page 707:1292simon 561:Nidhiki05 547:Weak keep 425:Billboard 291:• Gene93k 250:Billboard 37:talk page 732:or in a 663:Relisted 645:RadioFan 605:RadioFan 502:too soon 467:Relisted 417:Big Keep 402:RadioFan 359:Relisted 329:Relisted 200:national 117:View log 39:or in a 703:WP:BAND 699:Delete. 676:MBisanz 641:Comment 622:Comment 601:Comment 494:Comment 480:MBisanz 399:WP:BAND 395:WP:BAND 377:polisme 342:MBisanz 196:WP:BAND 164:WP refs 152:scholar 90:protect 85:history 701:Fails 534:HotHat 530:K-LOVE 498:WP:GNG 449:HotHat 429:HotHat 391:Delete 311:Michig 231:HotHat 136:Google 94:delete 50:delete 179:JSTOR 140:books 124:Stats 111:views 103:watch 99:links 16:< 711:talk 649:talk 609:talk 587:talk 576:Keep 538:talk 453:talk 433:talk 406:talk 372:Theo 315:talk 295:talk 246:Keep 235:talk 172:FENS 146:news 107:logs 81:talk 77:edit 554:Toa 273:bot 206:or 186:TWL 115:– ( 713:) 651:) 611:) 599:* 589:) 540:) 507:Mr 455:) 435:) 408:) 317:) 297:) 289:. 275:!) 237:) 166:) 109:| 105:| 101:| 97:| 92:| 88:| 83:| 79:| 52:. 709:( 647:( 626:§ 607:( 585:( 536:( 510:T 451:( 431:( 404:( 313:( 293:( 233:( 212:§ 190:) 182:· 176:· 168:· 161:· 155:· 149:· 143:· 138:( 130:( 127:) 120:· 113:) 75:(

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