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316:: They are not locked you just have to pay to see them. I would type them out for you but it would probably be a copyright violation. All 4 articles are short (less than 100 word each). If there is just one article of that length I would say he was not notable. The point I have is that this person switched jobs 4 times over several years. Each of those times the National Newspaper of Record believed it was news worthy. To me that would say that this person was notable during that era. The main difference between him and 320:, is that no one could point to any third party sources with any biographical information other than his win/loss record. As I stated above there are quite a few articles that mentions him or about him in the Pittsburg Post-Gazette. Together I believe that there is enough reliable, third-party, published material on this person. 381:
so that we can have a uniform and open discussion about what truly makes a notable college football coach. This will prevent arguing article-at-a-time and help to make Knowledge (XXG) a better encyclopedia. It will prevent a "scramble" on both sides of the argument and make for a single place to
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requires, that ""Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than trivial but may be less than exclusive." Especially where athletics are involved, a mere "Soandso has been
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All of a sudden, there are a large number of college football head coach articles being considered for deletion. There has always been a trickle--one or two at a time, but my current count shows 28 ], and I'm sure I'm missing many. One editor has achieved a deletion of
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hired to replace Suchandsuch as head coach of the Miskatonic University Fighting Cephalopods" is pretty ubiquitous and certainly trivial. So far, nothing in
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supports an article on the criterion of switching jobs frequently. (By the bye, I've already typed over 100 words for this comment alone.)
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notability to coaches of even the lowest possible levels of college ball, of course we ought to rule on black letter policy.
87: 181: 127:, and article lacks non-trivial coverage in reliable, independent sources. See also a similar AFD currently in progress at 191: 186: 70: 436: 196: 36: 157:. A. C. Ransom also known as Alured "Slim" Ransom. Ransom was also a football, basketball and track coach at 435:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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to delete coaches. I suggest (and have been suggesting for some time now) moving these argument to
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sounds great to me. Same person, coached at multiple major colleges. At least from 1941-1954.--
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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and other local newspapers on his career as a player as well as a coach.
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People having general discussions is a good thing, and when and if
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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come to a true consensus instead of a hit-or-miss end result.--
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject College football/Notability
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One when he left W&J to take the job at Dickerson.
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list of American football-related deletion discussions
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And what do those articles say? Do they involve, as
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 439:). No further edits should be made to this page. 296:. All the links 09er listed above are locked. 219:Addition there were numerous articles on the 8: 180:One when he took the W&J coaching job 185:One when he was promoted to W&J AD. 260:: This debate has been included in the 242:. Fails BIO and ATHLETE and NOTABILITY. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 407:is amended to explicitly grant 420:02:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC) 392:01:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC) 355:20:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC) 330:20:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC) 305:15:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC) 280:23:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC) 252:11:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC) 233:02:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC) 215:01:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC) 141:16:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC) 53:02:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC) 1: 195:One when he quit Dickerson. 456: 432:Please do not modify it. 159:Washington and Jefferson 123:Does not appear to meet 32:Please do not modify it. 221:Pittsburgh Post-Gazette 366:Please Move Discussion 373:and is now claiming 44:The result was 282: 265: 163:Dickinson College 447: 434: 416: 351: 301: 277: 271: 266: 256: 249: 114: 108: 90: 34: 455: 454: 450: 449: 448: 446: 445: 444: 443: 437:deletion review 430: 414: 349: 299: 275: 269: 247: 110: 81: 65: 62: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 453: 451: 442: 441: 425: 424: 423: 422: 395: 394: 371:Walter J. West 362: 361: 360: 359: 358: 357: 308: 307: 283: 254: 244:Kittybrewster 236: 235: 217: 200: 199: 198: 193: 188: 183: 175:New York Times 121: 120: 61: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 452: 440: 438: 433: 427: 426: 421: 418: 417: 410: 406: 402: 399: 398: 397: 396: 393: 389: 385: 384:Paul McDonald 380: 376: 372: 367: 364: 363: 356: 353: 352: 345: 340: 336: 333: 332: 331: 327: 323: 319: 315: 312: 311: 310: 309: 306: 303: 302: 295: 291: 287: 284: 281: 278: 272: 263: 259: 255: 253: 250: 245: 241: 238: 237: 234: 230: 226: 222: 218: 216: 212: 208: 207:Paul McDonald 204: 201: 197: 194: 192: 189: 187: 184: 182: 179: 178: 176: 172: 168: 164: 160: 156: 155:Alured Ransom 152: 148: 145: 144: 143: 142: 138: 134: 130: 126: 118: 113: 106: 102: 98: 94: 89: 85: 80: 76: 72: 68: 64: 63: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 431: 428: 413: 408: 400: 365: 348: 334: 313: 298: 285: 257: 239: 202: 167:John Heisman 150: 146: 122: 45: 43: 31: 28: 415:Ravenswing 409:prima facie 375:"precedent" 350:Ravenswing 300:Ravenswing 270:Fabrictramp 171:Sol Metzger 67:A.C. Ransom 59:A.C. Ransom 405:WP:ATHLETE 290:WP:ATHLETE 276:talk to me 401:Comment: 117:View log 314:Comment 286:Delete: 84:protect 79:history 344:WP:BIO 335:Reply: 294:WP:BIO 288:Fails 240:Delete 133:Stifle 125:WP:BIO 112:delete 88:delete 46:delete 203:Merge 153:with 151:Merge 115:) – ( 105:views 97:watch 93:links 50:Coren 16:< 388:talk 339:WP:V 326:talk 322:09er 258:Note 229:talk 225:09er 211:talk 169:and 161:and 149:and 147:Keep 137:talk 101:logs 75:talk 71:edit 48:. — 267:-- 264:. 390:) 328:) 292:, 273:| 231:) 213:) 177:: 139:) 131:. 103:| 99:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 77:| 73:| 386:( 324:( 248:☎ 227:( 209:( 135:( 119:) 109:( 107:) 69:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Coren
02:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
A.C. Ransom
A.C. Ransom
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
WP:BIO
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Walter J. West
Stifle
talk
16:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Alured Ransom
Washington and Jefferson
Dickinson College
John Heisman
Sol Metzger
New York Times

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