288:- Highly useful selected bibliography. A multitude of pages should be able to create a See Also link to this to directed interested readers towards the scholarly literature in topics of interest to them. Each and every one of our "Further Reading" sections is necessarily a subjective selection of a sampling of the material on a topic; this is no reason to delete here. The very vastness of the literature related to the subject makes this a valid stand-alone topic, rather than cluttering dozens of articles with dozens of titles...
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