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in CAP752 required operators "ensure that the standards of maintenance and modification of the aircraft's air conditioning system, engines and APU are such that air supply contamination by oil from the engines and/or APU, or by any other potentially hazardous substance, is avoided." While the case
251:. I see no evidence of BITE-ing going on here. Even the presence of injuries does not make this particularly notable. If some changes are made to policy years down the line, this incident might be mentioned in passing in the applicable article, assuming it even plays a role. 194:
Where are all these events coming from? BTW, I seriously doubt someone from the FAA doesn't know when last an aircraft had to use its slides. He may not have been able to supply an exact date, but he'd have an idea. Far too regular an occurence, and fails the draft
135:. Diversions due to smoke in the cockpit aren't typically considered notable, and the fact that this diversion caused a slight delay to the arrival of the Emirates A380 from San Francisco doesn't make it notable, either. Also, keep in mind 352:. I don't tend to go "per nom" but there really isn't anything I could add to state the case better. Minor incident, no crash, no one died. These things happen all the time. Nothing to suggest notability in any way. 268:. Neither do I. My intent was precautionary. The unseemly haste to delete a new article can be very discouraging for a novice creator. It does no harm to wait a few days to see how it evolves. 395:- I'm usually kind to flight articles, but this, as of now, doesn't have any extraordinary details. They smelled smoke and took it back to LAX. The smoke didn't even come from a fire. -- 371: 131:
Short article on an airline incident not likely to have long term notability. The incident doesn't meet the notability guidance developed by the Aviation WikiProject and detailed at
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Just a news story. If something comes of it then that information can be added to other articles, for instance on the airplane model or articles on airline safety.
91: 86: 459:- if it were major injuries, I'd agree, but we're talking about minor scrapes from sliding out...everyone walked away, no one was taken off in an ambulence even. 95: 132: 78: 480:- misses the point. The need to deploy masks and chutes reflect emergency measures. Also, the failure of masks to work when called upon is non-trivial. 434: 446: 17: 141:
it takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute evidence of sufficient notability.
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While trivial on the surface, there may be notability yet. Also, the article was created by a newcomer. Please don't
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Precautions taken. Bumps and bruises on evacuation. Unremarkable malfunction with no evidence of lasting impact.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
501:-- another NN aviation incident. Every minor mishap seems to generate an article that has to go through AFD. 298: 35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
548:-180 aircraft, like AAL31, the importance rises greatly as they may have to operate three hours on one engine. 228: 506: 200: 613: 596: 553: 523: 485: 338: 273: 239: 165: 147: 518:- not notable, smoke related air conditioning problems are not rare either are precuationary landings. 196: 438: 412:- An event like this is woefully non-notable. It's a non-event that is far from being encyclopedic. 470: 423: 294: 182: 544:, the principle is universal, to avoid poisoning people with pyrolized lube oil. On two-engined 502: 400: 357: 256: 219:. A few days to allow the story to unfold seem reasonable. There were injuries, hence it is an 608:- Unless something else comes out from thh FAA review, precautionary does not rise to notable. 579: 382: 220: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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American Airlines Flight 31
American Airlines Flight 31
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Aviation/Style guide#Aviation accidents
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