151:. The problem that goes for the new one just like the old one is: The term "anti-hellenism" is used in so many different ways that any article about it will either remain a pure dicdef (anti-Hellenism means being against something Greek), or weave together an OR story out of unrelated elements. There are simply too many ways how and why and in what sense someone might have been "against something Greek" (political, cultural, modern, ancient, different political contexts, et cetera.) The present sub-stub article has chosen a radically non-committal approach: somebody has evidently been Googling more or less blindly for any and all uses of the term, and simply listed whatever they found, with a single brief sentence about each attestation. There is no indication these attestations are in any way representative, no discussion about how they are related, nothing about how notable each of them is. While "reliably sourced", this is nevertheless maximally useless. – A Prod endorsed by two editors was removed, by someone who apparently wishes to to turn the page again into one of those dreaded nationalist-masochistic "Anti-X'ism" articles, which list any and all perceived acts of hostility against a certain ethnic group, wallowing in the national feeling of injustice and victimization from those oh so hostile neighbours. This is of course the last thing we ought to allow, so before this happens I'm bringing it here.
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national story of "unjustified persecution" etc etc because of what he has seen in other anti- articles. Btw, some anti-nation articles are in fact good with many truths and explanations but i don't think anti-Hellenism could ever be something more than a stub or a retarded story-telling OR.. though because i trust the dignity of Greeks i think it would stay as the dumb stub we see now forever.
204:, hostility to the legacy of Greek and Roman literature, art, and culture. We there have a minimal stub, currently, that cites one of the same sources cited here: more could be added on that topic also. The two subjects seem fairly distinct in my mind, and this title is ambiguous in current English. -
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4. i am a Greek as the creator of the article is. and i too have rolled my eyes in all those articles who, as Fut. said, "wallow in the national feeling of injustice and victimization" etc.. and i certainly don't want to see my nation's name amongst them.. 5. There is no bibliography about this
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usable content than this one, hacked together from a single random undigested factbite. It contains not even a dictionary definition. (I guess I needen't comment on the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS of the first part of your argument.)
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