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194:"I'm surprised — I thought his name was reasonably well known — but I have to agree with Edison that there is still no reliable sourcing listed, even after the AfD has run this long, and that therefore he fails WP:BIO. To break the footnotes in the current version down in more detail: #1 gives a little biographical detail but seems self-published and unreliable (a biz website associated with Schlafly). #2 mentions him only trivially. #3 is unreliable (a tripod website) and mentions him only trivially. #4 and #5 provide opposite sides of the same story but neither is reliable and both mention him only as one of several participants in the abortion-breast cancer faux controversy rather than providing any biographic detail. #6 is Schlafly himself expressing an opinion. #7 is a bio of his mother, and notability is not inherited. #8 is a paper published by him. #9 is a bio on the web site of an organization founded by his mother. #10 is a marriage bann, certainly not evidence of notability. #11 and #12 source only the fact that he ran a losing political campaign, and WP:POLITICIAN makes clear that that does not suffice for notability. #13 is his mother's organization again. #14 is not so much about him as about Conservapedia (which I agree is notable, much as I may not like that fact). #15 is about a scientific discovery that is per se unrelated to the subject, #16 is his own web site about the discovery, and #17–19 are blog posts about his stupid reaction to the discovery. If that's the best we can come up with, I don't think it's good enough." 175:
The basic rational for deleting is that the subject does not have enough reliable sources to create a neutral, and verifiable article that fits the basic standard outlined in biographies of living persons. The sources used in the article are either trivial, include only trivial mention of the
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All of the issues of verifiability and notability are still present, there has been no substantial movement towards addressing any of the issues, expanding the article or dealing with neutrality issues. My recommendation is that this be deleted and setup as a redirect to
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resulted in no consensus. I am bringing it back up because I feel that the arguments made to keep the article are invalid and all of the substantial problems that lead to an unanimous delete and redirect are still present.
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that pointed out its lack of verifiability and notability. The article was resurrected and failed a speedy delete because it was not the exact same article. However the
183:, or from his mother. His article must stand or fall based on sources available for him. I would like to call particular attention to an analysis of sources given by 224:
surely. Whatever us terrible liberals at Knowledge (XXG) may think, Conservapedia exists and is notable. I think that he does acquire notability from the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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this is an invalid argument, Conservapedia is notable, no one is denying that but he does
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This article was originally deleted and redirected to conservapedia after an unanimous
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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gain notability for an article because he founded it.
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get his notability - do we question his bio here? —
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Ten Pound Hammer
19:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Andrew Schlafly
Articles for deletion/Andrew Schlafly
Articles for deletion/Andrew Schlafly (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Andrew Schlafly (3rd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Andrew Schlafly (4th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Andrew Schlafly (5th nomination)
Andrew Schlafly
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
afd
AFD that followed
Conservapedia
User:David Eppstein
conservapedia
Tmtoulouse
talk
19:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

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