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447:"Few" = 20+ for Clear Channel networks, and that's just pop radio only. How can Clear Channel or Westwood One rotate songs when the radio stations add and rotate their own songs? The flagship owner isn't in charge of adding and rotating, the station does. And for what its worth the login is free.
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