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355:: I'm going to try to wade through the article and do some cleanup, as there's some clear puffery going on here. The first case in point: the Goodread awards are ones where anyone can nominate a book as long as it was first published in 2013. I don't know if the authors can submit their own works to this, but I do know that it's easy to create multiple accounts to vote and nominate things. Not that I'm saying the author did this, just that because this is one of those awards that's so easy to get nominated for and falsify votes, we don't count this towards notability unless you win the final top award of best in your category or best for the year. The Amazon sales also don't count towards notability because sales don't equal to notability. It can make it more easy to get coverage, but it doesn't guarantee it. Plus once you get into specific categories on any sale site, it's easy to say you're the top of something in any one specific category. 426:
If you go the self-published route, you have to do all your own advertising (apart from the company's site). I don't blame him for trying here, and wish him luck (very much needed in the self-pub world...), but we're not here for promotion. And this is undoubtedly promo. As to the book, 82,000 words
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as spam. I've just reverted everything and tagged it as spam. This is pretty much the epitome of someone trying to spam for themselves on Knowledge using sources that are so unreliable that using them actually made my decision to speedy it as a whole. The award nominations are pretty much a joke, as
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The references cited are, for the most part, listings of where the book is sold. Otherwise there are self-published sources (author's blog), blog postings by other authors that are merely a description of the book (probably as a form of mutual promotion), tweets by the author, and reviews from web
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is a reasonable length, but I can't see how he rewrote it in five days. Five agents isn't a great number, either, for rejections. Look how many JKR had before Bloomsbury accepted Harry Potter. 'Sales' figures will undoubtedly be skewed by five days free download.
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anyone can nominate anything at Goodreads and the Bath Awards are ones where even the author can nominate themselves. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty certain that the Goodreads awards are the same thing. You might get notability if you won, but the author
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It's self-published per Amazon (through createspace). No sources of note. Nothing looks even as if it would be vaguely notable even with that list of references that appear to be a misfiring
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is an awards contest where anyone can submit and besides that, isn't an award that would give notability even if the book won it.
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This article is very thorough and well written but... it doesn't establish notability of the book per
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Google search results in much of the same, and a lot of social media postings.
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