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reason you gave for deletion was "A single internal document states this camp exists - that isn't enough to justify an article.", I have proven that wrong - come up with a new reason, or withdraw the nomination. It is clear there are, at least, several sources for the existence of the camp, including
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listed, and thus are notable. And that's hardly the best "Google-scouring" can find, it's from the first page of hits for a very simple search of the title of the article. And I highly doubt LeT maintained three different camps named Ibn Masood, Abu Masood and bin Masood, realistically...especially
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talking about the camp, does not merit deletion. It merits patience in waiting for future revelations about the camp. For brief example, ten seconds with Google showed me "In or about early October 2001, at LeT's Ibn Masood camp near Muzafrabad, Pakistan, Muhammed Aatique fired an AntiAircraft gun
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and "As he explains, he was recruited by the Lashar-e-Taiba from Multan a couple of months ago and sent for a 21-day preliminary course at the Abdullah bin Masood camp, located near the Chalabndi bridge in the Sirkot area of
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reading the nomination I never imagined that this "single internet document" would prove to be an official Dep of Defense report.
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were listed as justification for a military invasion. On the other hand, the 40 terrorist training camps in Afg/Pak
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Enough sources exist to write a decent verified article (even if a stub), so it is notable.
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adequately sourced. Military bases are notable, provided there is reliable information.
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The second link doesn't work for me, the first is a skeleton argument for a
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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There you go - given. "mentions" is exactly the problem.
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when all three are listed as being in the same village.
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