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Absolute Punk helped to establish their fan base, led to their record deal, helped them to get a gold record or something similar would work. Articles that simply cite Absolute Punk I would not consider as "significant coverage" or even part of "multiple non-trival sources". Articles such as the two mentioned from NME do meet the "non-trivial" definition. Per "Top 25 Most Influential People in Online Music." Of the actual site it says that "
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