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article about how acronyms are used in the Phillipine media might be worthwhile. I'm surprised, though, at how much original research fluff. My favorite unsourced statement, more so than "Acronyms are popular" is this one: "Pedantic discussions on the differences between abbreviations, acronyms,
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This is a very good encyclopedic article. Proof: a) it is well-sourced, meaning therefore, putting tons of links like BBC, AFP, etc. are not essential, due to "res ipsa loquitur" principle, b) not only students, teachers, but even scholars, professors, and Philippine jurists can benefit from this
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I'm not sure that sources alone can save this artlice. The fact that acronyms are used in the Philippines does not make "Acronyms in the Philippines" an encyclopedic article. The claims about acronyms--their popularity in the Philippines, the inclusiveness of the definition--will be OR no matter
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sources. It can't be described as "sourced", let alone "well sourced". I agree that the subject is encyclopedic, which is all the more reason that the article should be brought up to Knowledge (XXG)'s standards. For the time being, the non-acronym "O.R." applies.
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What would determine whether a particular acronym belongs? There doesn't seem to be any reasonable criteria to decide what a "acronym in the Philippines" is. Is it an acronym that is used in the Philippines? An acronym used
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Mixed feelings about this one. To some extent, it is encyclopedic and contains information that should be placed somewhere, like "Vote for D CHAMPP", a campaign slogan that has no equivalent in American politics, and a
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Rather than trying to argue that sources "are not essential", the editors should simply find soume sources to cure the "original research" objections are easily cured by the addition of sources. This one doesn't have
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That's a good start. I urge people to follow Warden's example and put sources, and if there are some items that can't be sourced (like those "most Filipinos agree" sentences) those can be removed through cleanup.
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Claims like "Acronyms are popular in the Philippines" are original research. List itself is just a collection of acronyms and what they stand for, not much in the way of notability and no encyclopedic value.
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well-written article. I myself, would use this, in preparation of court pleadings, and c) the blue wikified links are in themselves source of tons of links. This is not an original research.--
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and initialisms is non-existent since for most Filipinos, all are considered acronyms whether or not the acronym is spelled out or spoken like a word." Did someone do a survey or something?
343:. Maybe greatly trim down the actual list of acronyms in the second part of the article and just source (or remove if sources can't be found) the contentious statements in the prose part. -- 123: 174: 90: 85: 94: 77: 17: 324:"Pedantic discussions on the differences between abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms is non-existent since for most Filipinos" 81: 399: 375: 352: 335: 298: 271: 256: 231: 205: 186: 164: 140: 59: 414: 36: 73: 65: 201: 289:. It is an accumulation of unrelated acronyms based only on the fact that they are used in the Philippines. WTF. 413:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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in the Philippines? Does it have to be an acronym for something notable? It's just too vague.
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what. Even a "List of Acronyms in the Philippines" would violate
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Acronyms in the Philippines
Acronyms in the Philippines
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Florentino floro
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