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haven't added any in a few millennia. So that's not a fitting benchmark. However, it's a fresh and innovative approach, it reveals a lot of information previously kept secret (one had to be initiated and stick around for years to get this stuff), and it integrates a lot of obscure, esoteric, and far-flung elements into one very well-written and exceptionally clear system purged of superstition, doctrine, and lots of the other junk that inevitably gets added on over the millenia. It's a brilliant work of integration, IMO. And since Yogani has been called "the first yoga eGuru, having come to prominence on the
Internet" on a patently independently web site (
497:: I cant really speak to whether the topic is encyclopaedic or not, because I'm not sure what the notability criteria should be here. I just thought I should share the information that, when I accessed some of the Amazon links to the books provided above, several of them had fairly high ranks. Ranks above 75,000 change frequently over time, but most of the books had ranks (either today or yesterday) below 300,000, and several had ranks well below 200,000, which is a commonly-used cutoff for notabiliity.
521:: Ohnoitsjamie, Thank you for adding Wiki format and links to the article. If and when it is approved, I will be happy to add informative articles on the practices you have linked, plus some more. Very few are covered on Wiki so far. Is there more that needs to be done to the article now to meet Wiki standards? Yogani, July 20, 2006
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The reason for not having many hits when you google is because it is still new.. but catching on very fast. AYP online memberships in the AYP Yahoo groups and the AYP website forums total nearly 10,000 people. The AYP websites have been visited by over 50,000 people during the past few years, and are
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I haven't been doing any work on wikipedia in ages (just busy), so I don't know how much cred I have at this point. However, most of my work dates back to before "Advanced Yoga
Practices" came into being, so I'm at least not a new face. This is certainly not a new "branch" of yoga, Ohnoitsjamie. They
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Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie. But fwiw beware Alexa. It skews very steeply toward underaluing non-huge sites. I have friends running small, medium, and rather large sites who all agree Alexa underrates by a factor of magnitude. They get the super big ones right, though. Just FWIW! (I have no idea what
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Thanks for the contribution, O.Pen. Other editors please note O.Pen's contribution history: many quality edits in 2003-4 on articles relating to yoga and its schools, and no contributions either recently or to the article up for review. A genuine, expert, outside opinion is rare on AfD.
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