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292:. When it comes to coverage that actually focuses on Croft, all we have are local sources. I always view those with suspicion since those don't always do the best fact checking when it comes to coverage, as it wouldn't behoove them to say something negative about something seemingly good that a native did. The Guardian article doesn't have Croft as the focus of the article, which is about self-publishing in general. As for the claims of selling well, that doesn't guarantee notability- it just makes it more likely that you'll get coverage. I was hoping to find more coverage due to the radio play, but there's nothing out there about it and it seems like it's one of many radio plays that get made and sink into obscurity. 273:. If DGG didn't already say that this was by a suspected sockpuppet and confirmed paid editor, I'd have suspected that this was a case of paid editing. I'll see what I can find, but offhand it doesn't look spectacular. Most of his coverage is local and therefore depreciated, since it's in their best interests to portray a local citizen in a more positive light in these circumstances. The Guardian link is good, but he's not the focus of the article. 209:; I don;t know who wrote the earlier versions, but they are also not salvageable, because there's no fundamental notable to be salvaged. The promotional manner of the writing is what you;d expect--it contains what the subject wants to say about himself. If I am wrong, and he actually is notable, the article would still have to be rewritten entirely, by someone who knows and respects our standards. 201:
as being in a single library. He's a self-published author, and claims to be notable as such, and also claims to be notable for showing that a self published author can be notable. It's true that a very few have been. It's not true that he's one of them.
235:- what a horrible mess. The "sources" include blogs, user profiles (created by the subject) and the barest of passing mentions. With those removed we have a series of articles (from reliable sources) but most of those are coverage 243:
the subject. Lots of quotes from him, not a lot about him. There's a feint chance the subject might be notable but the article is a horrific jumble of promo-spam and dishonest referencing masquerading as solid,
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I don't think he's a notable author. He fails the basic test that his works are listed by library databases. Only one is, and it lists
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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