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Cushing 1885, Dooley 1900, and Clute 1993 are all non-genealogical, independent sources which discuss Bidwell for multiple paragraphs. I only can see the first page of Clute 1993 at proQuest, and suppose that the later
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Great job with the research, thanks for bringing these books back. However, would I be correct in ascertaining that the mentions of
Bidwell within those books are very short? Despite being mentioned in several sources, which proves he did exist, I worry that there isn't enough
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215:- a very interesting story glancing through the articles, but there isn't enough scholarship to pass GNG, based on my google searching. Maybe someday a page for the Bidwell family at large would warrant a mention of his name.
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