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critics praised this achievement (it is actually Romania's first 100% indie/guerrilla feature film), I believe this is also proof of Țofei's notability. I was fascinated myself by the achievement, which is why I tried to contribute as much as possible to both the movie's page and Țofei's page and tag them whenever I saw them mentioned elsewhere. It's odd that this behavior is interpreted as a form of abuse or self-promotion. It is not. I am still searching for more info and references to add to Țofei's page in support of his notability, please don't delete it again.
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disputable whether there are currently no third parties at all, since some of the sources do not mention only direct reviews and critical opinions of the critic who wrote the article, they also contain a general analysis of the status of Țofei in the film world based on all the praise he received in the film community.
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state and use the talk page to ask help with third party sources. There is no talk page and no proof that the community made any significant efforts to find third party sources, so the page should be given this chance until being proposed for deletion again. And also take into consideration that it's
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why Țofei is notable and he restored the page. I need some help here from the Knowledge community, the second attempt to soft-delete seems strange, to say at least, given all the circumstances and the fact that the user who proposed it went to delete even unquestionable info about Țofei's movie from
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This was just soft-deleted, then restored. It's pretty obvious the IP behind the article is Țofei himself, a relentless self-promoter based on the number of articles where he's seeded this link. The fact, though, is that at present, his sole claim to notability rests on having directed a single film
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My single purpose here is to contribute objectively to things that I feel passionate about. Please do not manipulate the discussion, I never said that my single purpose is to promote Țofei and his film, I said that I am fascinated by the achievement. There is no conflict of interest in contributing
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The movie's notability hasn't been disputed so far, only Țofei's page. But since he did almost everything on that movie - directing, writing, producing, acting, cinematography, editing, production design, casting, production management, sound, sound editing, color, special effects etc. and a lot of
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These were the IPs automatically assigned to me when I contributed to Țofei and his movie. I am not a constant contributor, I contribute to Knowledge from time to time and when I do so I focus on a subject for a couple of days till I'm satisfied with the quality of the edits. I worked on various
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Most contemporary filmmakers on Knowledge have only sources based on their films in one way or another, and they are accepted as secondary sources. It would be extremely hard to find a source about a filmmaker (even top filmmaker) that no one could accuse of being based on his films.
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Yes, I will consider registering an account from now on to remove any suspicion of single purpose. I contributed to a lot of other pages, but I don't have a static IP, it changes, so it's impossible for me to prove anything.
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because the movie is not spoken in Romanian and it's addressed to a Hollywood celebrity, so it's not Romanian enough in his views. If this is true, it makes him biased towards anything related to the production.
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Sorry, you're way off: I'm actually a filmmaker myself, and Țofei is a rival. My aim is to minimize mention of him throughout the Internet, and hopefully wreck his reputation in the process.
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I've added to the page more relevant info and sources in support of notability, compared to what was there when the deletion was requested, and will continue to add more.
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The article builds too much on the websites on Tofei and his film. We need 3rd party coverage of Tofei that is in depth about him, and the article does not show such.
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There's nothing "strange" about a renomination under such circumstances. If anything is strange, it's that you haven't disclosed your apparent
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I don't see anything wrong with most of the sources. There are two important awards in two film festivals with international significance (
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Needs independent secondary or tertiary sources, which I can't find any. The sources all rely on his film(s) one way or another.
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to things that you feel passionate about. And I also contributed to other pages as well, unrelated to Țofei or his movie.
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other pages in different periods of my life and all kinds of IPs have been assigned each time to me.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I cannot have any conflict of interests about Be My Cat being mentioned on
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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in Sydney), three praising reviews/listings in top film sites (
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Articles for deletion/Adrian Țofei (2nd nomination)
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