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390:. Molinari meets the GNG. She had three separate instances of news coverage -- when she became Miss New Hampshire, when her title was taken away, and years later when she went into porn. The newspaper column used as an article reference is a good example of the sort of coverage she received, and provides more reliable substantive information than the sources in a typical porn bio here do, by a wide margin. The fact that early 1990s print coverage in not generally accessible online does not make it less substantive or reliable. 407:-- nn as a state-level pageant winner, as has been established at the long string of related AfDs, the vast majority of which closed as delete or redirect. There was a minority of articles where subject went on to have more or less notable career, and these were kept. In this case, the subject's career in adult entertainment is not notable. So if you are adding 0 + 0, you are still getting a zero. 510:. This is just not content Knowledge (XXG) needs to advance as trivia and invasion of privacy, to use as a "proof" of notability for article inclusion. IMDb doesn't even list her being on A Current Affair but does list, at the bottom of her porn videos, "Sin City Spectacular" in which her screen (or stage) name is only listed with no other information. 489:, is not even a reliable source. All "porn stars" have some story of how they got there, usually promoted by the entertainment company selling the subjects "goods" so there is a conflict of interest using these as a source. All porn stars don't need an article on Knowledge (XXG), certainly not one where her only 539:
listed as "The most extreme site ever made". This site splashes advertisements that shows women, that appears to be in extreme pain, having sex with hands around their necks and painful facial expressions, or what could be interpreted as being raped (violently) by multiple people, or with their hands
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Molinari is not even close to notable for being a pornagraphic film actress. There is not even a claim that she was ever nominated for an award. Considering the industry gives out awards like candy, this means she was if possible negatively impactful. Her having her standing as Miss New Hampshire USA
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As for her using another name for being in porn, two different reliable sources cited in the article have connected Molinari and Alex Taylor. In her porn movie Dethroned, which was based on the events of her life and her being stripped of her title for being a stripper, they list all her titles won
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is simply a newspaper article with passing mention stating "She appeared on "A Current Affair...". A reader would then have to go to the "External links" and read content. This is of concern to me because IMDb contains content that is more than likely not appropriate with personal information such
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Please note: Knowledge (XXG) is not censored, so porn content is certainly allowable as long as referenced by reliable secondary sources. I would however, think that editors, and possible Knowledge (XXG) at large, would have issues with advancing a biography where content includes links to other
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In addition the claim that she passes GNG put forward in the previous discussion was not at all based on sources. the sources in the article are majority to non-reliable databses that seek to catalogue anyone involved in the creation of pornographic films, which is not at all a goal in Knowledge
535:(DO NOT CLICK IF YOU FIND GRAPHICAL SEX SCENES OFFENSIVE) brings up a nice picture of the supposed subject. There is a link to "Performer Credits" that shows 17 gorgeous women that can be somehow possibly be interpreted as art, BUT!!! Just below "Submit bio corrections" are live video links to 449:
per Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. According to her long defunct official website, in addition to being on A Current Affair, she was also on Hard Copy, Inside Edition and Entertainment Tonight as well as Geraldo, Donahue, Riki (sic) Lake, Howard Stern, MTV when she was Miss Nude
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as: "Trivia: Since May 2009, she works as a Clinic Manager at American Laser Centers. This is so not cool and could lead to issues. Knowledge (XXG) should never advance allowing this type of personal information. Also, the biographical content there (mini-bio) is
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isn't even about the subject but the screen name not even mentioned in the lead. The reference to the advertising list of porn movies is just that and biographical information is used from internet archived "WayBackMachine" to get vague information.
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content with such things as videos titled "Where the Boys Aren't 12" or "Where the Boys Aren't 13". I can think of a whole lot of reasons why connecting porn videos to the word "boys" and connotations (if not actual) to ages would be a
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in 1991 before having her "crown" removed, in part because of the above mainstream media coverage. As was noted in the first AfD on this same subject in 2015, BLP1E doesn't apply as the subject here is clearly not "a low-profile
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is less not as graphical but pretty much a tits and ass advertising site also. This is what we are ultimately allowing on Knowledge (XXG) with these advertising bio's and that is more than likely the real push in the
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an article is not usually considered an advertisement under policy. Seems also like the article might need a cleanup of its current sources and links (Otr500) so I'll tag it for cleanup.
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Also note that the subject's career in porn is under a different (stage) name. For BLP considerations, with very marginal notability such as this, I suggest that the article be deleted.
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is mandated by several Knowledge (XXG) criteria to be held to a higher standard, and this just simply doesn't even have a medium standard. The reference that she was on
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which have not been contested (a mere "fails Notability" is not enough). Concerns about promotional tone should be handled by editing the article, merely
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The subject here doesn't appear to have an active official website, so there are no real "promotional" issues here. Also, an
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revoked is worth noting in the article on Miss New Hampshire USA, but not enough to justify a stand alone article.
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nor IMDb is used as a citation in the article under consideration here. Commentary at AfD related to
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external links are common in many, many Knowledge (XXG) articles of this type as well. Neither
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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on the back of the boxcover, so she obviously wasn't trying to totally disconnect the two.
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The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006.
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over their mouth and a horribly painful look on their face as they are having sex.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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On a more graphical point: The listing of the external links to
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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as no evidence of notability, Fails PORNBIO & GNG. –
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