709:. In part of the re-write of the main article I have been working on, I have touched quite considerably on the An-2 operations, for example, did you know that villages, towns and cities in Siberia and the Far East an area the size of the continental US had no rail/road connections, and therefore they were reliant on Aeroflot and AviaArktika services with the An-2 for their very survival. Would it add anything to the article for the entire list of communities which were reliant upon these services to be drawn up? I believe it would be
908:: My name is Dimitri, I'm the author of this Article. First of all, I do not consider it at all "being considered for deletion". It contains authentical information (gathered and sorted by myself), all necessary references and sources. So I don't know why it has to be deleted and I insist in keeping this Article on Knowledge pages. Moreover, if you delete this Article, so delete all the same Articles (Terminated destinations) which exist in each Article devoted to this or that aircompany. It would be fairly... To whom
1918:: collecting and sorting of information, its verification, endless dialogues with Aeroflot current route-managers, flight-attendants who served and serves all these destinations (from 1979 till now!!! - almost 30 years in Aeroflot), disputes on aviation forums - and all in vain? All for "being deleted"? Not even MERGED! While EACH OTHER aircompany, presented here, on Wiki-pages, has such a section "Terminated Destinations", merged in global article "Destinations".
964:, as you can see, IS in a separate page (if it is the only remark). As for dates. Almost all of them are indicated in references and sources. So I do not think it is necessary to post a date to each terminated destination. Moreover, you will not find such a detalization at any other similar page devoted to an airline terminated destinations... So if it is so necessary to someone to delete it, let's also delete all the others similar pages, ok? If
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Aeroflot, the name was changed from Aeroflot-Russian International Airlines to Aeroflot-Russian Airlines, and this was done in order to better demonstrate the direction that the company was taking; i.e. concentrating more on the domestic market (one which it was not prevalent in between 1992-2000) and less on the international market. Prose, prose, prose, in my mind would be much more preferably to lists such as
2208:- Regarding seeing the differences between your IP and Dimitri's IP, editors on Knowledge (for purposes of privacy) cannot see the IP address of either user. Also, in regards to your comments during the deletion debate, your witness in court would of course be valid, unless of course its hearsay, as reporting what any other personnel of Aeroflot would be. Also, here we have our own set of laws.
1014:. The problem with 99.99% of the destination articles (which are on very thin ice going by past AfDs) is that they provide no context, they are not sourced (there are many which are still unsourced after I placed unref tags on them over 12 months ago -- yet people still keep adding and deleting to them), most of those which are sourced are not done within the confines of
2043:? It is dicrimination, my friend! To your displeasure, I was thanked there (in Roman-speaking Wikis) and my articles are only being improved by other editors. And finally, please, cease to invent irrelevant pretexts for deleting. Do not make yourself an object to laugh at (even having "a higher standard" then all others)... Regs, --Dimitree
1245:. For Aeroflot the list of terminated destinations is too long to fit into a section. That is why the original author put it in a separate list. The article (and its title) can certainly be improved, but statements like "boring", "indiscriminate", "useless" are all POV and should not be offered as a serious argument for deletion. --
747:. this all looks like a reason for keeping, not deleting. How does the fact that Aeroflot is the largest airline the world has ever seen make this information unnotable? Surely it makes it even more notable that information about any smaller airline. We don't delete articles because theyt might grow too large.
353:, as DGG says it's "relevant to understanding the history of the airline", thus fulfilling the informational purpose of a list. The only reason to delete this kind of thing and not everything else in Category:Airline destinations would be if wikipedia was actually a travel guide, not an encyclopedia.
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Really! I do not pretend to be an
Aeroflot's lower, but I think that one of the world's biggest airline (and biggest in 80-th!) - flag-carrier of my Motherland - Russia, - merits to have a complete article "Destinations". Anyway, all decisions are taking here through a "voting", so the only thing for
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Would you be so kind to give, at least, one objective reason for deleting? Let me kindly inform you: there are HUNDREDS of
Articles (Sections) dedicated to Terminated Destinations of EACH air company, presented on Knowledge pages. So, according to your logics, next should be, for example, the section
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Regarding "not reading", I think it just got too big. When it was smaller, wikipedia probably had a few deletion discussions and everyone who participated had time to follow them. Now there are so many of them that people just take a quick at the article and vote based on their first impression, it's
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2 Juzhong: so what for this spectacle is playing? I wonder how agressive are those who live in GB and other
English speaking countries. It seems I insult them by creating this Article. Morover, I've maiden the same (created the Article "Aeroflot Destinations") in 4 other European langueges, but only
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useless" (as Boffob and other say). I would like to underline: it is history and no one can escape it or change it. But if someone (very distanced from aviation) thinks it is useless, let him do not read it. Let's delete all historical articles because they have no anything in commun with reality we
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News reports are not primary sources, although admittedly Dmitri has been using some primary sources, which is a problem. The subject is "destinations once served by
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We appear here to be assembling a list of terminated destinations from a series of news reports, primary sources. That is a bad sign. So is the fact that the subject "destination no longer served by
Aeroflot" is not encyclopaedia, making the list rather indiscriminate. Finally there is the issue
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Do you think that the words of the witnesses don't mean anything (for example in court trial)? I'm former
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posting vague (and insulting for me) definitinos like "an indiscriminate collection of information"... The matter is when NO ONE of voting for deletion replies me in a reasonnable way. They just play a puzzle: "borring", "useless", "indiscriminate" - put them together and define what you have got...
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2 Russavia: Would you please indicate what exactly articles of this kind are unsourced? What exactly articles have no external links? And if people, as you say, "still keep adding and deleting to them", so there is a need! Please, be objective: everything has its history even if it (history) is not
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Articles (Actual destinations and Terminated). Or let's delete ALL SIMILAR ARTICLES OF ALL AIR COMPANIES, including Delta, United, British Airways, BMI and
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and so much so to the point that it would lose all meaning. It's the way that I believe lists would be better served as prose within the article proper, explaining why the network has been reduced and prose describing the changes, and perhaps with the addition of a map (as shown below); in the case
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Even with only international destinations being addressed, and this would go to the arbitrary date of 1992 being used, wouldn't one also have to list destinations of Центральное управление международных воздушных сообщений (ЦУМВС)? Whilst the entity that we now know as JSC Aeroflot-Russian
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I've followed the arguments, and there doesn't seem to be a good reason to delete the information. It's not information I plan to use and there are issues of sourcing, maintenance, and verifiability, but a strong case has been made that route history is notable and should be included in some form.
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dispute, he/she would have taken right away that opportunity and merged into the other article. The share fact that this discussion can not be concluded quickly points out to interest in continuing it rather interest in having the info on WP. Persoanlly, I am an anti-deletionist (of info from WP),
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in fact, the very size of the airline is a reason for having the information. WP i not paper, and having too much information is not a reason for deletion. If necessary, we can separate into domestic and international, or even divide further. The relevant policy for this objection is WP NOT PAPER.
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article, rather than having a list with an arbitrary date of 1992 which doesn't tell the reader anything that wouldn't be better covered in prose within the article - such as the reasons behind the reduction in the network and the shifts of focus for the airline during the different periods of its
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don't need them. The history of
Aeroflot goes back to 1923, so one would have to include every single destination in order to even begin to have an understanding of the airline's history and network. I am working from time to time on getting the article improved (off-wiki), and one of the things
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Neither indiscriminate nor useless. Its a specific list of the places to which they once flew, which is a very sharp and exact discrimination. Its not useless, and is it relevant in understanding the history of the airline--or that country's air transport industry in general--and in elucidating
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twice or thrice I've used my nick and IP. Ok, let him be as he is - accusing people without any proofs, no matter... The matter is when an editor (Scapler), pretending to be objective and competent, engages voting for deletion and DOES NOT GIVE ANY REASON for deleting of the article, but keeps
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unless there's an indication that improvements are being made. Perhaps some of the editors who see potential in the article can offer the new contributor some pointers on Knowledge format. I can appreciate that this is the editor's first contribution, but he/she needs to provide sources.
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just appeared on the Main Page of de.wiki; it's a Good Article with just 10 footnotes and reams of uncited text, something you'd never see here. You don't seem to get that Russavia's block ended a week ago, and that Scapler was well within his rights in nominating for deletion. Claims of
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Actually, I very much suspect this could be a sockpuppet of Dimitree, given that the editor has made only one contribution, is called "Livetofly", and has imperfect English despite a claim to be from the US. Also, the user is implying Americans are ignorant, something Dimitree has
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You have been accused of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Knowledge accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Knowledge:Suspected sock puppets/Dimitree. Thank
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planned is a map of the international network and destinations previously served, however, my skills on that side of things is basically non-existent, so any pointers to where to get help there would be good; a map is a much better way to go, as it can then be included in the main
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Aeroflot stopped flying to Pyongyang or Chicago, and conceivably, context could be added to reflect why Aeroflot couldn't afford to serve these locations post-USSR. Without even so much as a link to something that is useful, this article is currently of no help to anyone.
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Agree with this opinion "Neither indiscriminate nor useless." Former routes and destination are part of the history of every airline company, especially one of the world-largest airliner as Aeroflot was at that time. Definitely keep and make it more accurate and complete.
1553:. This is encyclopedic information about an airline that would be too much to put in the airline article. It needs expansion, not deletion. The fact that many destinations are "no longer serviced" is irrelevant. Any half-way decent encyclopedia covers history.
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mentions in historical events and geographic descriptions. It's only useless if you think the purpose of Knowledge is to be a current travel guide. WP NOT is also a positive criterion--of its more than travel guide coverage, it's appropriate here.
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Unsourced, uninformative, and, yes, indiscriminate. We have to take the author's word for it that the list of airports is a list of places that Aeroflot served during the years "1992-2003". Conceivably, information could be provided about
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Actually, the article specifically addresses only Aeroflot-RAL (international operations), not the Aeroflot of good ole days that flew AN-2's to every forgotten village. So the domestic routes and irregular Antarctic flights are off topic.
2713:. I now agree that the article serves a useful purpose, and should be kept. Needs more sources, but I'm sure we can find them. Other airliners have lists of terminated destinations; this one is just too big to go in the main article.
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reappear (given current hiatus in Russian airline industry, whole bunches of routes may be on sale tomorrow), is it possible to keep it up to date? It'd rather see it textified to a verbal history of "network optimisation".
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ok for someone. Neither you nor I can decide what to do with history. And, please, privately, speak Russian with me - you can do as good as you do in English. Regs, --Dimitree 01:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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As I've already asked you above, be so kind to explain me, saying "we are", "we have" and so on, you mean WHOM? Yourself? Try to take care of yourself not of "us". And now I ask you using your terminology:
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the following reasons: unsourced, unlikely search term and notability of terminated destinations not established. Merely being true is not reason for inclusion. What does this list offer as encyclopedic
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mean what? If I place here ALL NETWORK of Soviet Aeroflot (1923-1992) it takes TOO MUCH SPACE, bieleve me: 102 countries and 133 destinations on six continents, including Antarctica. But in question is
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while comparing English-Wiki to other European Wiki-pages: French, Spanish, Italian and Portuguese. According to you, these Wikis have lower standards, haven't they? Would you please indicate me these
2596:. I agree with DGG. Here in US we don't know much about Eastern-European airliners. This article can be another good source to fill up the gaps. Definitely keep and try to make info more complete.
1870:. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. The duration of the block is 48 hours. William M. Connolley (talk) 22:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC) But
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the date 1992 "doesn't tell ... anything", I will explain: it is the date when Aeroflot became an aircompany of Russian Federation, not of Soviet Union. I hope now it tells a bit the reader...
1717:? Also, I kindly ask you to give a reason for existence of sections ("Terminated Destinations") almost on each page dedicated to each airline presented in Wiki. For others - it is ok, for
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shouldn't be used as a reason to keep or delete, each article has to stand on its own merits, but in previous discussions, it has been considered that these articles should be deleted. --
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here, in English Knowledge, I met such a reaction. Especially hypocritically sound all their insults commented with "cheers" and "smiles". Fancy! --Dimitree 09:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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of how many times Aeroflot actually had to land somewhere for it to be considered a destination. A lot of these would have been scheduled for political as much as commercial reasons.
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you'd like to keep the Tarom list" is silly and unnecessary. "We" is the Knowledge community - we can have any articles we please.
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me is to wait for results of this "voting"... Thanx for your time and best regards, --Dimitree 04:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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2 Martintg: Really? Totally useless? And how did you decide? Any arguments?
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and have to be deleted. But they exist! Paradox or double standards?
2414:......." is not encyclopaedia, making the list rather indiscriminate
1713:- end of citation. I kindly ask you to explain in what consist this
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all the rest. According to you, these Articles are "indiscriminate
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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EDITORS CAN ACCUSE WITHOUT ANY PROOFS OTHER USER OF SOCKPUPPETRY
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for a short time in accordance with Knowledge's blocking policy
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Would you please explain me what kind source for an article is
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List of shelves no longer used to store milk in my refrigirator
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being the author of the article in discussion and partially of
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If it depends on YOUR vision of history, pay attention to this
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live in. Useless facts, names, dates, destinations and so on --
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If you want you can easy follow the dynamics of reduction of
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WITHOUT STOPOVER in Prague. Leg Prague-Dublin is operated by
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He was blocked for 2 days. The 2 days are over. Moving on...
1262:- Knowledge is not and indiscriminate collection of data. --
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Looking up one of the references I am using, using just the
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Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of information
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who uses a foul language (in English transliteration). And
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endless list... --Dimitree 01:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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TO ALL VOTING FOR DELETION AND NOT FOR MERGING (KEEPING)
1725:. On what criterion is based this categorical statement?
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No, the whole business about "well, you're Romanian, so
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2031:? To accuse me of sockpuppetry without any proofs like
1739:, I'd like to notice that "Terminated Destinations" of
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1618:? Fancy! You should better rebuke others, for example,
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Don't bring ethnicity into this - that's considered a
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I thank a lot everyone who supports me or my article!
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List of WWII spots to/from where aircraft has flown
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Aeroflot — Russian Airlines terminated destinations
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Aeroflot — Russian Airlines terminated destinations
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list of Transportation-related deletion discussions
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Aeroflot — Russian Airlines terminated destinations
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Aeroflot — Russian Airlines terminated destinations
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page.
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1586:. May be it would update your vision of present?
1567:It depends on your definition of history. To me
789:) Airport). For those who do not speak Russian,
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2108:List of gates no longer used by United Airlines
845:flag-carrier with its network. Am I correct?...
2378:the subject "destination no longer served by
2370:the subject "destination no longer served by
2053:We, en.wiki, have higher standards. Example:
1530:... --Dimitree 20:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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1916:I've spent A MONTH for creating this article
2085:. If Demitree is serious about keeping the
1874:votes for deleting of articles! Fantastic!
1513:indiscriminate, useless, borring and others
1397:. It's better to redirect to that section.
1176:. There's no point trying to talk to them.
1956:. Be objective. Try. Or imitate, at least.
504:list of Lists-related deletion discussions
1967:NOWHERE EXCEPT ENGLISH-SPEAKING WIKIPEDIA
1671:- end of citation. So do you mean saying
395:no evidence of notability per guidelines.
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2459:History of the Soviet Union (1985–1991)
2269:Nothing personal, really... --Dimitree
2171:http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Tolip
824:History of the Soviet Union (1985–1991)
2425:You are right, but if you speak about
1906:: it is evident: even if I've written
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2472:. So starting from 28 of July 1992
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1878:Applause, please :))) --Dimitree
1779:Well, because frankly, the thing
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2145:to the user, who wrote this:
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1630:, you mean whom? Yourself?
834:was taken on 28 July 1992
1965:I'd like to mention that
793:means almost the same as
455:Why do you think we have
2739:Please do not modify it.
32:Please do not modify it.
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1876:It is a real spectacle!
1853:is blocked from editing
1509:Strongest possible keep
1279:Strongest possible keep
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1239:Strongest possible keep
1214:just quicker that way.
830:- Soviet Airlines into
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2241:: You say, citation -
1920:It is not a fair game!
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1667:, you say, citation -
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417:Matthew Brown (Morven)
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1584:Knowledge:Notability
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461:Knowledge:Subarticle
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2253:As practise shows,
2157:I got this message:
1036:WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS
2554:DOES NOT MERIT IT?
2478:Russian Federation
2448:Russian Federation
2247:EDITORS CANNOT SEE
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2025:"higher standards"
1845:ATTENTION, PLEASE!
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