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365:: I feel this is being held to a higher standard just because this is a cover. Probably due to the old guideline that was around for many years that covers don't get their own articles. Well, times have changed. In fact, in the cited guideline, it pretty much tells us to do the same thing we do for 228:. The Houston cover is independent of the US anthem because it has multiple facts about its performance, including being a charity single. We don't split covers merely because they were released and become more or less notable than the original version, including but not limited to 290:: there is more information in the standalone article than is currently included in the original section, namely about the music video and charting, but all of that could be included in the original and it wouldn't take up so much space as to cause any issues. 335:, and some protection may be necessary to prevent a reversal by those who have interpreted the policies incorrectly. Yes, there is some minor encyclopedic info on this Weezer version, but the nominator is correct on why it should not have its own article. --- 369:. Nothing indicates to hold a higher standard. If this was an original song, no one would even think of putting this in AFD. Keep in mind that Weezer's version of "Africa" was a big hit in its own right. It's not "just another cover" as being suggested. 162: 264: 205:. The statement reads: "Notable covers are eligible for standalone articles, provided that the article on the cover can be reasonably detailed based on facts independent of the original." 119: 387:(overlap in content, short song articles, etc.) And the music Wikiprojects constantly discuss the handling of cover songs, so its not like its obscure outdated guidance or something. 225: 156: 220:. Then we have a music video and chart sections. Nothing here indicates content that cannot be on the main page. NCOVER was specifically created for articles like 233: 51: 66: 92: 87: 96: 432: 79: 229: 351: 46: 39: 17: 177: 144: 299: 237: 60: 56: 241: 123: 138: 417: 398: 378: 357: 319: 303: 279: 256: 83: 134: 221: 384: 347: 184: 393: 314: 383:
It's not so much a "higher standard" as much as its just an "obvious merge target" due to the points of
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Yes, especially if someone rewrote and streamlined the prose a bit, which is pretty rough right now.
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The article is not "reasonably detailed" to claim a split from
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