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group begs belief. While the article is fairly long, all it consists of is a short intro claiming that this ethnic group exists and then a long lists of people supposedly included in it, togheter with a lot of pictures taken from the different people pages. That not even a single source is presented
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and although the majority of linguists these days reject the hypothesis, there's no denying it and that article fully merits its place on Knowledge. This article, Altaic peoples, is another matter. Nobody, not even those suggesting a relationship between Altaic languages has ever suggested an ethnic
348:- I've seen no convincing evidence that this substantial page should be deleted, nor evidence that the proposing editor or "delete" voters have researched the issue thoroughly. I'd like to see "Discussion" used before such a proposal is made. 367:
with the suggestion that editors should try to find references if they are in doubt about deleting something. If there are readily found references, the whole premise of the AfD fails.
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in the whole article is rather telling but not very surprising, as nobody has ever put forward such an ethnic group. The page is original research from the beginning to the end
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The whole page is original research, as can be seen by the complete absence of even a single reference. There is a hypothesis for the existance of a language family,
390:, references for Altaic people can clearly be found, the article itself just needs some. It should just be tagged {{references}} rather than being AFD'd 216:. Indeed, nobody has suggested an ethnic group such as Altaic people, and neither does this article. The title is not "Altaic people" but "Altaic people 132:
group such as Altaic people. Including ethnic groups as differen as Turks, Azeris, Mongolians, Koreans, Japanese and many others into the same
323:- The fact that you've found such evidence, yet neither the proposing editor nor "delete" voters did so, is more than a little troubling. 87: 82: 54: 91: 74: 17: 270: 450: 36: 236:– there is no ethnic group such as Turkic people, but there are many ethnic groups that happen to be Turkic.  -- 449:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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found quite a few references - cites and more than a few complete scholarly books dedicated to this
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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As Shoessss shows, ample sources exist and the nimonation is based on an incorrect premise.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Absolutely no source, and the author went nuts with pictures.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Juliancolton


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Altaic peoples
Altaic peoples
edit
talk
history
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links
watch
logs
views
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View log
Altaic languages
JdeJ
talk
14:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions
• Gene93k
talk
09:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Ron Ritzman
talk
00:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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