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254:? It says of Cairns, "It was under his direction that the training of preachers for the North American ministry of the FPC commenced in 1982. Geneva Reformed Seminary exists because of his vision and tireless labors." With recent history, we're often limited in what we can reasonably expect to be available.-- 468:. The subject's notability seems to be that he founded a sister denomination in US and became ist main lecturer. This seems to me to make him notable. ONe difficulty is that this is all concerned with a splinter from a small denomination. "Theological Hall" may be the Reformed Theological College of 544:
I am certainly open to changing my vote, but I can't find anything in reliable sources which indicate his notability. Peter, you're probably correct that the difficulty in finding reliable sources is that this is a splinter from a small denomination. However, this is also precisely why it does not
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He cannot inherit notability by being associated with a famous politician/minister. His role in a small bible college, lacking accreditation as a degree granting college, the role of which is to train ministers for a splinter of a small denomination, certainly does not provide any inherent
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notability. No evidence has been provided as references to the article, or here in the deletion discussion, to demonstrate that multiple reliable and independent sources have significant coverage of him or his work.
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in the article stating he founded the seminary and to have that noteworthy event in the lead. If these two issues were resolved, I'd support a keep, but without them, Cairns is just a non-notable evangelist.
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If everyone who did the same things that this guy has was to become "Notable", then "Notable" would have no meaning. Everyone would have a page.--
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appear to be notable (presumably, if the group became sufficiently large and notable, it would begin to generate coverage from mainstream sources.)
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accusations that senators pressured state department to revoke visa for that same controversial pastor
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No activity as a Bible teacher or pastor seems to meet the notability threshold spelled out in
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Agree with Eustress - an independent third party RS is needed. Found some references to him
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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newspaper article were he is hosting a controversial pastor from the uk
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of the seminary and (by extension) the North American denomination.--
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No reliable evidence of notability from reputable sources presented
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Mention of service as a pastor for 30 years in a local UK newspaper
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I suppose being a full professor at the Geneva Reformed Seminary
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because the majority of its clergy are his former students.--
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Cairns is founder of a seminary and effectively the
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