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169:"Kanun" or "traditional family-based clans". They commit crimes because of the poor financial situation in Albania and Kosovo. It does NOT have a "mafia" tradition like Italy. Implying that is ridiculous. Also, the original source is NOT the book "Gangs: A Journey into the heart of the British Underworld", as referenced, but the Serbian website www.serbianna.com, which has for a long time been spreading propaganda. I would appreciate if someone objective would take a look at the site and see for himself. 163:-Some information is flat out wrong. For example: The "Balkan Route" has NEVER accounted for 25-40% of the heroin smuggled into the US. That is not just a blatant lie and mis- interpretation, but also falsely implies that Albanians have been responsible for smuggling it, when in fact, especially at that time, the "Balkan Route" was mainly controlled by Serbian and Bulgarian groups. 154:-If people want to write artcles about Albanian crimes, OK (do it in individual pages), but dont compile decades of individual, unconnected crimes in one article, to form a false image of an "Albanian Mafia". That is defamation. You can see that some of the main sources of this article are up to 25 years old, which further proves my point. 265:
While a part of the sources can be legitimately put in doubt, and should thus be removed, a considerable number are clearly OK: the US governmental sources, the Washington Post, the Independent, and Thompson's book. Certainly this article needs considerable editing, and more sources must be added,
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Also people add and delete material as they please, to fit their bias. The topic itself is highly controversial, it is not like the Italian Mafia. So if it not to be deleted for its wrong content, then I would like to propose it for deletion because of vandalism and bias.
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VANDALISM and the article being biased are main problems. If I just clean up the page, someone will restore everything again and again.Just in the last 2 days an unregistered member changed existing quotes several times, giving them a COMPLETELY new
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but it's hardly doubt that the papers speak a lot of it; and in Knowledge (XXG) we are not after the truth, but after reliable sources, and these don't miss: a simple search for "Albanian mafia" in the news archives turns out
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and cleanup. The long list of rationales mentioned by the nominator do not, by themselves, justify deletion. False claims within the article should be deleted but please not the entire article. --
311:. Not only is "the page gets vandalized a lot" not a valid AFD criterion, it's completely rediculous. If we deleted every page that was vandalized, there wouldn't BE a Knowledge (XXG). 148:-It is misrepresenting, misusing sources, and spewing anti-Albanian propaganda disguised as objective information on a subject that is scattered, arcane, controversial, and undefined. 138: 197: 73: 223: 374:. Mind you, the article needs a good work-out. Also, individual crimes are not notable, but the organized crime phenomena by groups of albanians is notable. -- 267: 166:-In the "history" section a pseudo background on the "Albanian Mafia" is given to justify the article. Albanian crime has nothing to do with the 365:, and it's used on several mainstream newspapers. The FBI talks about albanians working inside Balkan "mafias" and "albanian organized crime" 346: 105: 100: 359:
as involved editor. The subject is notable. The term "albanian mafia" is used on at least one Interpol report in front of US Congress
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EVEN Belgian police acknowledge that only sensationalist reporting has led to fantasy depictions of the Albanian Mafia.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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per Aldux and Rwiggum. Vandalism issues are not a reason for deletion.
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and other obvious references to the topics dealt with on this article
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Hi everyone I propose this article for complete deletion because:
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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362:, one congressional report from the republican party 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 421:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 198:list of Albania-related deletion discussions 224:list of Crime-related deletion discussions 222:: This debate has been included in the 196:: This debate has been included in the 71: 391:. Vandalism isn't a reason to delete. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 74:Articles for deletion/Albanian mafia 70: 24: 1: 401:14:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 384:09:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 350:05:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 330:01:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 303:01:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 283:00:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 258:00:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC) 239:23:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC) 213:23:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC) 58:00:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC) 438: 414:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 187:) 23:18 20 August 2008 69:AfDs for this article: 44:The result was 255: 241: 227: 215: 201: 188: 175:comment added by 429: 416: 315: 309:Keep and cleanup 254: 252: 228: 218: 202: 192: 170: 136: 130: 112: 34: 437: 436: 432: 431: 430: 428: 427: 426: 425: 419:deletion review 412: 326: 313: 248: 132: 103: 87: 84: 67: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 435: 433: 424: 423: 406: 404: 403: 386: 353: 352: 333: 332: 322: 286: 285: 260: 242: 216: 143: 142: 89:Albanian mafia 83: 82: 81: 76: 68: 66: 64:Albanian mafia 61: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 434: 422: 420: 415: 409: 408: 407: 402: 398: 394: 390: 387: 385: 381: 377: 373: 370: 367: 364: 361: 358: 355: 354: 351: 348: 345: 342: 338: 335: 334: 331: 327: 325: 319: 316: 310: 307: 306: 305: 304: 300: 296: 291: 284: 280: 276: 272: 269: 264: 261: 259: 251: 246: 243: 240: 236: 232: 225: 221: 217: 214: 210: 206: 199: 195: 191: 190: 189: 186: 182: 178: 174: 167: 164: 161: 158: 155: 152: 151: 146: 140: 135: 128: 124: 120: 116: 111: 107: 102: 98: 94: 90: 86: 85: 80: 77: 75: 72: 65: 62: 60: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 413: 410: 405: 388: 356: 336: 323: 308: 288: 287: 262: 249: 244: 219: 193: 168: 165: 162: 159: 156: 153: 149: 147: 144: 45: 43: 31: 28: 376:Enric Naval 268:315 sources 171:—Preceding 250:Blanchardb 50:Ecoleetage 231:• Gene93k 205:• Gene93k 295:Basey555 290:meaning. 256:- timed 185:contribs 177:Basey555 173:unsigned 139:View log 344:megalon 324:Contrib 314:Rwiggum 106:protect 101:history 393:Stifle 134:delete 110:delete 275:Aldux 137:) – ( 127:views 119:watch 115:links 16:< 397:talk 389:Keep 380:talk 357:Keep 347:2000 341:Maxa 337:Keep 299:talk 279:talk 263:Keep 245:Keep 235:talk 220:Note 209:talk 194:Note 181:talk 123:logs 97:talk 93:edit 54:talk 46:Keep 226:. 200:. 399:) 382:) 328:) 301:) 293:-- 281:) 273:-- 237:) 211:) 183:• 125:| 121:| 117:| 113:| 108:| 104:| 99:| 95:| 56:) 395:( 378:( 320:/ 317:( 297:( 277:( 253:- 233:( 229:— 207:( 203:— 179:( 141:) 131:( 129:) 91:( 52:(

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