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If that is the case, then I would suggest a search for reliable sources be done for the album. A few months ago a lot of the really early
Hillsong albums went through AfD debates, and articles were found on then and implemented as sources on their respective pages, as well as sources of their ARIA
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Hillsong albums all got a keep status. I'm just going based off what I've seen in other recent album AfD discussions though.
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Maybe, maybe it isn;t notable, I don't know. See my reply above about this article being tagged for years and nothing produced. Instead, the notability tag was removed! Finding sources should be done before creating the article, but it's not too late.
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Hillsong albums and this notability guideline helped save several other albums and lack of charting tanked several as well.
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