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of these articles into neutrally titled pages that cover these issues in an encyclopedic manner, or we keep all of them them. At present I vote for unilateral disarmament, and call for editors to get back to creating good articles of the kind one would expect to find in an encyclopedia. Here are the
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Hopelessly POV and unencyclopedic to the extreme. If anything can be salvaged, move into the appropriate articles as suggested above, but honestly, this sort of thing is probably documented in such articles already. Editors should not have to waste their time with this tripe. There are far more
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OR collection of practically unrelated events under umbrella of a broad term, ignoring any context. Magnet for vandals and warriors. Unmaintainable, potential to grow w/o limit every time when someone somewhere says the work apartheid. Classical example of the problem with OR on WP.
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by Israeli focussed editors, which placed Israel merely as one of many nations attacked by the pejorative. One of the countries most linked to the term was Cuba due to its tourist policies of the 90s (exclusive hotels etc), which also happened to be one of Homey's preferred
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and added a whole load of verifiable accusations to that page. And the knock on effect was that U.S. focussed editors have repeatedly demanded its removal in turn. Which they shouldn't be able to do because the standard had already been set by previous
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them under those articles. Such articles really leave the door open for all sorts of POV-pushing and OR. It is time that Knowledge (XXG) got more serious covering subjects - every country has "HR in X", develop
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Seeing as it had seemingly become acceptable standard practice to throw accusations around on article mainspace providing they were sourced, Cuba related editors went over to
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Naturally, Israeli focussed editors were unimpressed, and scoured the net for other uses of the term in relation to other nations. And found them. Hence the creation of
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to promote their personal opinions, political ideologies, nationalist movements, etc etc. We have too much of this nonsense already here. Knowledge (XXG) is
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I just looked at the Canada section, but unfortunately those concerns about the Indian reserves are well-known and at least that section is valid.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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per Pavel. This is an encyclopedia, not a collection of allegations and accusations. Also in violation of
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delete, the term has no agreed definition and thus it is just a list of anything that comes to mind.
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between many of the various sections. Setting up this equivalency is therefore novel synthesis.
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articles out there that are in need of work and attention. metaspheres 20:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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was carefully created by Israeli focussed editors, essentially as response to the
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Zleitzen does give a fair history of the article, but I can't agree that this
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related articles/forks. If I have left any out, then please notify.
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Delete, sandbox the salvageable material and merge to many articles
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America
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List of acts labelled as state terrorism sorted by state
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Now banned User:Homey and other leftist editors created
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Shimeru
13:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Allegations_of_apartheid
Allegations_of_apartheid
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
WP:SYNT
Jtrainor
23:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
sofixit
Calton
Talk
23:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Urthogie
00:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
incomplete
DumbBOT
11:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Pavel Vozenilek
07:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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