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If people would bother to take a look, I've added an expanded opening paragraph which is more encyclopedic. Removed an excess image, removed some fan speculation, added some book references from the first book which I got from the library, and tried to improve the article. Sadly I'm not an expert
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It's a major character if reliable sources have decided it's major, not if you have. Do you have any reliable sources? Perhaps you'd care to turn the article into something resembling an encyclopedia article?
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Being a fictional character on a tv show or film does not mean notability. Has character become a cultural figure? Has the character been the subject of a major WP:RS other than trade publications?
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Even if one goes by the GNG for topics of this sort, there is no requirement that there be "many"sources, nor that the sources be exclusive. They just have to be substantial--more than a listing.
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