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prestigious yes but "Highly Prestigious"? NO. The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g. a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a Fellow of a major scholarly society for which that is a highly selective honor (e.g. the IEEE) - NO. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions. - NO. The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or "Distinguished Professor" appointment at a major institution of higher education and research. - NO. The person has held a major highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution or major academic society. - NO. The person has made substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. - NO. The person is or has been an editor-in-chief of a major well-established journal in their subject area. - NO. The person is in a field of literature (e.g writer or poet) or the fine arts (e.g. musician, composer, artist), and meets the standards for notability in that art, such as WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSIC. - NO.
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The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. - NO. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level. - An undergraduate math competition,
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level far outdistancing other types of recognition at the undergrad level, for which most people outside the world of mathematics have no appreciation. Moreso, Rubin is one of only a handful of people (seven, actually) to have ever attained 4-time-fellow status. Separately, his "Choosability in
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In simple english: 1. Winning a Math competition 4 times does not make someone notable on it's own.... 2. Filing a patent does not make someone notable. 3. Having failed to achieve a seat on the assembly does not make someone notable. 4. Being smart does not make someone notable.
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And since the 80's there has be no activity whatsoever, achievements are notable and in this case I just don't see enough to make it a worthy entry. Clearly a smart guy but not a notable one...
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Apologies for raising this a 4th time but I and it appears other just don't see this as notable page for Knowledge (XXG), much more notable pages have been deleted as far as I can see.
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Ah, that explains it. It did look somewhat familiar, but since 2008 I have learned more about WP and have also become more inclusionist... :-) --
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Appreciate the feedback, but Rubin being a "Mathematician" should have notability requirements fall under the Academic category .
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400 citations alone (GS) – an enormous number for a mathematics paper and arguably enough on its own per the impact clause of
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If an academic/professor meets none of these conditions, they may still be notable, if they meet the conditions of
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Jujutacular, I didn't know that press coverage was one of the criteria for academic notability, is this correct?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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And a good thing that is, otherwise I would not have seen this and would not have voted
489: 875: 726: 677: 652:"Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention" I see very very little coverage. 521: 608: 931: 706: 836: 637: 613: 409: 119: 67: 157: 848: 809: 782: 539: 301:. If other 'more notable' pages have been deleted, it also doesn't matter, per 871: 719: 670: 514: 405:
significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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An article in the LA Times specifically regarding the subject
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list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 960:). No further edits should be made to this page. 391:, the page you're quoting these criteria from: 537:, significant coverage in reliable sources. 8: 318: 322:: This debate has been included in the 966: 603:The fact that someone doesn't pass the 76: 693:. Only confirmation so far by another 689:. Like, obvious. 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