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Iranian Azerbaijan" wording, implying that there too are examples of "Azerbaijani architecture" and that Tabriz is Azerbaijani territory. The creation of a supposed "architectural school of Nakhchivan" could have the aim of "Azerifying" what are actually Iranian architectural forms and traditions). But that is a content issue. My deletion proposal is based on the fact that the subject of the article does not exist.
52:. In my judgment, the sources cited by Interfase strongly weaken the earlier arguments that this school of architecture does not exist. The remaining arguments that the article is OR or advocacy (or, if I may add, very badly written) do not preclude a "keep" outcome, as they can be remedied by editing. This discussion also does not preclude a discussion about merging the topic with, e.g.,
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Someone does not know their subject - there are no engaged columns in the Momine Hatun tomb! A "local school of architecture" is not the same as "Architectural school of
Nakhchivan". An "Architectural school" requires a sequence of buildings that have been created over time by multiple architects or
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Yes, Grandmaster is right, it is off-topic for the discussion here. I understand the reasoning behind
Gazifikator's worry: some of the article's content could be seen to have propaganda purposes. (For example, the article is template linked to "Azerbaijani architecture" and mentions Tabriz using "the
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and Clare P. Fawcett. For example, Akhundov's "seemingly innocuous, abstract archaeological paper was a deliberate political provocation: all the crosses on today’s territory of
Azerbaijan, including significantly Nagorno-Karabagh and Nakhichevan, were defined as Albanian, a people who in turn were
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Ajami was the founder of this school, but he was not the only representative of it. The article needs further development and expansion, to include more examples of the local architecture. And the
Nakhichevani school was clearly the product of master builders, Ajami being the best, but not the only
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Uccept the Grove reference as sufficient to warrant the article. Perhaps there are only two buildings, but that is still enough to define a style, and I think we have to go by the way the term is usef in the most reliable encyclopedic sources. The more extensive coverage in the GSE and EI confirm
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And the term "architectural school" does not refer to minor local or regional variations in building types due to, say, climate or building materials - so it can't be applied to everything and anything. Just because place A looks different from place B, doesn't mean we can start to use terms like
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Azerbaijan, each large region has a different architectural style. Nakhichevan and Karabakh are closer to each other, but are still quite distinct. Shirvan and Sheki are completely different. If you look at mosques and traditional houses built in Shirvan and Nakhichevan, you will immediately
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Nakhchivan" and the content has been copied from information already in various Nachchivan-related articles
692:Рядом с мавзолеем сохранились руины неизвестного сооружения и полуразрушенный цилиндрический минарет, сложенный из обожженного квадратного кирпича. Сохранившаяся часть минарета позволяет еще раз проследить влияние
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661:Ослабление (9—10 вв.) Арабского халифата обусловило возникновение множества небольших государств, в городах которых (Барда, Шемаха, Байлакан, Ганджа, Нахичевань и др.) складывались локальные художественные и
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