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It would be ridiculous to delete this article because the album doesn't have a title; that's a highly questionable basis to delete an article, whereas in this case the fact that the entire article is the fictional invention of one user would seem to be a very strong and uncontroversial basis for
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Don't get me wrong ... we may disagree on a lot of stuff, but that wasn't intended as an attack. Most of these things are blog repetitions, which takes them out of speedy-land. They are poorly sourced, as opposed to conscious efforts to deceive. With
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for all the above reasons. I couldn't find sources in a 30 second gsearch -- they may be out there, but I'm not willing to invest more time than that on an unnamed album. Put what's able to be sourced into Ashley's article, delete the rest.
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