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384:- Nom's arguments are pretty good for editing an article, but as pointed out by others here, the term is notable enough to warrant encyclopedic treatment. These are reasons for editing and improvement, not deletion: the term is neither a hoax nor unknown, nor made up by a guy in a basement. Also, while there seems to be some original research issues with the name, in that it should be sourced, pseudo-science and speculative science are all well covered and there is concensus for inclusion, a consensus I agree with. It could be merged into 197:
All references to notable authors/media are not actually related to the subject at hand; Carl Sagan never mentions these so called "hypothetical beasts"; None of the books mentioned use the name Atmospheric beast; dropping the name of those books is uncalled for... the creatures in those books are
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I don't see how Sagan's theory of gas giants on Jupiter and gaseous planets equates to invisible beings in the Earth's atmosphere; Sagan simply posits that life could exist in a cloud of gas, not that the Earth's atmosphere could sustain life. Further, the earth's atmosphere has been extensively
48:. It looks like the article could possibly be cleaned up, so I would reccommend that at least a month or so be given for people to do that before renomination. There are possible merge targets for this as well, but all that should be hashed out on the talk page. 224:-these are just the first two references I came across. The article needs serious care, better sources etc. but the concept is notable enough. Maybe better merged in another article? Don't know what one could be best. -- 166: 257:; since Earth is not a gas giant I don't see from where your concern comes from. It talks of fictional Earth creatures within the definition but they're clearly and obviously referred as fictional. -- 127: 160: 198:
all SOLID or semi-solid, and the video game mentioned had a SOLID flying snake (not invisible). There is no notability, and the external links border on link spam.
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It seems the worst issue of the article is that it is confusing, merging together two separate kinds of hypothetical beings. I agree with the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Atmospheric beasts are hypothetical non-winged organisms which could live within the atmosphere of gas giants.
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studied and flown in... surely someone would have seen/hit one of these supposed creatures if they existed.
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The article, in fact, does not talk of "invisible beings in the Earth's atmosphere", since it begins with
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Completely non-notable term, with synthesized OR pop culture trivia thrown in, to boot.
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Thanks, now it seems much more clear and much more worth keeping. --
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Inaccurate and Inappropriate. In need of fact checking, erroneous.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Inaccurate. Seriously needs to check the research.
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No further edits should be made to this page. 382:Keep, re-write, re-name and/or merge/redirect 8: 220:for example, and he developed the concept 731:close with leave to speedy renominate. -- 426:In need of fact checking, erroneous. 271:I re-writed to address this issue. -- 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 545:Inaccurate and Inappropriate. 1: 649:Inaccurate and Inappropriate. 612:Inaccurate and inappropriate. 501:Inaccurate and Inappropriate 741:15:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC) 696:02:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC) 659:22:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 622:21:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 602:20:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 561:18:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 511:15:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 473:14:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 436:15:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 417:14:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 398:23:56, 25 August 2009 (UTC) 373:12:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 351:12:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 324:12:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 299:14:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC) 281:13:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 267:16:38, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 249:15:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 234:15:14, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 208:13:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 64:15:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC) 775: 751:Please do not modify it. 438:John Evans, Los Angeles 331:Keep (re-write) or merge 32:Please do not modify it. 388:, but I am not sure..-- 721:Note to closing admin 713:few or no other edits 676:few or no other edits 639:few or no other edits 579:few or no other edits 528:few or no other edits 490:few or no other edits 454:few or no other edits 715:outside this topic. 678:outside this topic. 641:outside this topic. 581:outside this topic. 530:outside this topic. 492:outside this topic. 456:outside this topic. 44:The result was 716: 679: 642: 582: 551:comment added by 531: 493: 457: 78:Atmospheric beast 70:Atmospheric beast 766: 753: 698: 661: 624: 564: 563: 513: 475: 439: 413: 192: 191: 177: 125: 119: 101: 59: 34: 774: 773: 769: 768: 767: 765: 764: 763: 762: 756:deletion review 749: 546: 411: 134: 121: 92: 76: 73: 57: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 772: 770: 761: 760: 744: 743: 727:. 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