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always there to tap the keg or to clean up the mess, Neil has been immortalised in what surely started as an irreverent "mickey-take". But the legend inexplicably grew, and the "Bob Neil" banner appears on stands at all the world's major sporting events and the club has its own business enterprise with "Bob Neil" memorabilia. Indeed in 1991, before the Crows' first ever-game against Sydney at the SCG, the players were bewildered but heartened to see the "Bob Neil" banner adorning the Bill O'Reilly Stand.
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The club’s website is bobneil.com and Bob Neil signs and banners have appeared across the world, at every major event. He, along with that other club stalwart, Fred Bloch - long serving and loyal, the man who wrote the club song - is at the core of this great club. It is a club that, as the amateur,
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It is the Bob Neil phenomenon that is as startling as any in the club's history. Neil, a humble mathematician, was a C grade player of modest but reliable ability. Without having met the man, you could imagine him wearing green or brown and playing in a back pocket. The sort of club man who was
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