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52:. If we discount those two, we have a raw total of 8-3 Delete (counting one Redirect comment as Delete). The argument that the non-production of the film is of some notability is well taken; this is not just somebody's fever dream, but a real event (by being a non-event) in the history of the Batman film franchise. On the other hand, no real claim was advanced that the Batman film 207:
of the film is notable in some way." Seeing that this film never even entered production, it can't even qualify for notability. It's not even "unfinished", it was never started. If this article is kept, then it will be trimmed down substantially based on the speculative bits in the article. There
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Article needs a bit of cleanup, but is generally properly sourced, and while not of earth-shattering importance, does factually detail the failure of the Schumacher franchise, and it's demise. I found it interesting the first time I read it, because I hadn't actually found much about it before then.
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Firstly, it is not a movie that would gain a good amount of attention; it is merely a sequel in a series. Sure, people would've seen it, but is it really so important and notable that even when canceled, it still deserves an article? Secondly, the two sources are merely speculation themselves - I
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wasn't even a script treatment released about this supposed film -- how can anything be assumed about what takes place? If this film article is kept, we may as well create film articles for other films that never got beyond pre-production. As I've said,
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Yes, maybe so, but Knowledge (XXG) is an encyclopedia, not a compendium of interesting film history that gives non-notable, cancelled movies their own fansite-sourced articles. To Soundblaster619 and all the other keepers, why can't this be covered
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specifically discourage articles on unproduced films except in special instances which are not really met here. So I don't see a really convincing Keep argument, and in the end, with an 8-3 raw vote total, I see a general consensus to delete.
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article seems pretty extensive since there were various people (such as screenwriters) attached at different points, but I'm not sure how valid of an article it really is. That's a debate in itself.
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It is history as an unmade Batman movie. It tells the story of what could have been had the series gone on with Joel Shumacher(sp?) continued as director and what his next film would have been.
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article seems to contain the necessary information in its sequel section, though I'm sure it could be improved. I don't know if there's been any other attempts to film a Batman movie after
48:. The raw comment total is 8-5 Delete. But two of the Keep comments are a bit fishy: one by an editor who has made two other edits, one by an editor who has made one other edit, to 119:
don't think we should be basing articles on such things. WB has not released information about this canceled movie; fans have merely speculated on it. All in all, the mention at
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I would advocate keep in the interest of Batman History. However, with just fanzines as sources, I can't advocate keeping something that is essentially unverified speculation.
56:(as opposed to the individual films) and it's backstories and financial ins-and-outs is itself sufficiently notable that a non-produced film in the series must be notable. And 49: 270:, being a Batman film is its only notority, and the information is too scant to warrent its own page. Plus, as previously said, it is already covered in its 169: 82:
As the film never entered production and has no significant value to have its own article. This project is already mentioned in its own section in the
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film article, and any information from this particular article should be adapted to fit that paragraph instead of having its own article. --
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was one intended film (under one intended script, it seems), which does not make it very notable from that particular perspective. The
17: 282:, Could this article not be turned into an article about all the other cancelled films between "& Robin" and "Begins" Like 181: 383: 291: 272: 214: 120: 84: 405: 36: 404:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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we have a category for cancelled and unfinished films; this one is part of the history of Batman in films.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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exists. That's a discussion for another day, though. --
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absolutely non-notable, makes no claim of notability.
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 408:). No further edits should be made to this page. 368:It's an interesting bit of Batman film history. 8: 322:, but that could be an article in itself if 199:states that unreleased films are "generally 154:Notable nough as an unfinished film. -- 193:Knowledge (XXG) is not a crystal ball 121:Batman & Robin (1997 film)#Sequel 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 212:already has its own section in the 24: 352:If the article had any sniff of 391:23:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC) 373:17:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC) 288:Spencer "The Belldog" Bermudez 69:04:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC) 1: 361:19:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC) 345:06:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC) 340:to cancelled films article.-- 331:21:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC) 296:20:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC) 263:02:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC) 254:, I agree with all the other 247:19:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC) 235:07:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC) 223:21:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC) 159:11:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC) 147:03:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC) 132:03:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC) 111:02:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC) 93:00:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC) 123:is quite enough, I believe. 425: 401:Please do not modify it. 324:Cancelled Superman films 32:Please do not modify it. 304:Canceled Superman films 284:Canceled Superman films 203:appropriate unless the 172:comment was added by 316:Batman & Robin 312:Batman & Robin 215:Batman & Robin 85:Batman & Robin 308:Batman Triumphant 273:appropriate place 210:Batman Triumphant 185: 109: 76:Batman Triumphant 416: 403: 370:Soundblaster619 354:reliable sources 167: 105: 88:film article. -- 34: 424: 423: 419: 418: 417: 415: 414: 413: 412: 406:deletion review 399: 168:β€”The preceding 80: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 422: 420: 411: 410: 395: 394: 393: 376: 375: 363: 347: 334: 333: 299: 298: 277: 265: 249: 237: 225: 191:First of all, 186: 161: 149: 135: 134: 113: 103:CanadianCaesar 79: 72: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 421: 409: 407: 402: 396: 392: 389: 385: 380: 379: 378: 377: 374: 371: 367: 364: 362: 359: 355: 351: 348: 346: 343: 339: 336: 335: 332: 329: 325: 321: 320:Batman Begins 317: 313: 309: 305: 301: 300: 297: 293: 292:Complain here 289: 285: 281: 278: 275: 274: 269: 266: 264: 261: 257: 253: 250: 248: 245: 241: 238: 236: 233: 229: 228:Speedy delete 226: 224: 221: 217: 216: 211: 206: 202: 198: 194: 190: 187: 183: 179: 175: 171: 165: 162: 160: 157: 153: 150: 148: 145: 140: 137: 136: 133: 130: 126: 122: 117: 114: 112: 108: 107:Et tu, Brute? 104: 100: 97: 96: 95: 94: 91: 87: 86: 78: 77: 73: 71: 70: 67: 62: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 400: 397: 388:Picaroon9288 365: 349: 337: 319: 315: 311: 307: 279: 271: 267: 255: 251: 239: 227: 213: 209: 204: 200: 188: 163: 151: 138: 125:Picaroon9288 115: 98: 83: 81: 74: 60: 53: 45: 43: 31: 28: 350:Weak Delete 318:and before 232:AdamSmithee 66:Herostratus 384:right here 260:Cbrown1023 205:production 197:WP:NOTFILM 58:WP:NOTFILM 174:Walks4fun 338:Redirect 182:contribs 170:unsigned 280:Comment 258:posts. 189:Comment 144:ThuranX 268:Delete 256:Delete 252:Delete 244:Prolog 240:Delete 156:Switch 116:Delete 54:series 46:DELETE 16:< 366:Keep 358:Agne 342:Peta 328:Erik 302:The 290:| ( 220:Erik 178:talk 164:Keep 152:Keep 139:Keep 129:talk 99:Keep 90:Erik 61:does 201:not 184:) . 386:? 294:) 286:? 180:β€’ 276:. 176:( 127:β€’

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/The Dark Enforcer
WP:NOTFILM
Herostratus
04:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Batman Triumphant
Batman & Robin
Erik
00:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
CanadianCaesar
Et tu, Brute?
02:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Batman & Robin (1997 film)#Sequel
Picaroon9288
talk
03:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
ThuranX
03:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Switch
11:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
unsigned
Walks4fun
talk
contribs
Knowledge (XXG) is not a crystal ball
WP:NOTFILM
Batman & Robin
Erik
21:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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