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676: 89: 681: 671: 574:. Lots of books written about this which discuss it in detail. A simple google search with the real name brings forth a handful of RS. So no need to delete, just rename. here are only a few of the sources on the net. There are many books which are not digitized, so other sources may also be found. Anyway, there are many books which establish notability. Like, 686: 493:: This is a series of battle articles created by various Indian and Pakistani POV pusher editors. As Wikimandia said it is very insignificant incident and no mention of this "battle" in independent reliable sources. Moreover if there is any "mention" still a passing mention do not deserve separate article. Currently article has 840:
There is not much content here. No one has identified any source which features this battle as the subject. Mentions do not establish notability. When anyone finds good sources this article can be recreated at anytime. It is not too much to ask for someone to provide a source giving a narrative of
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where the battle went from 22-23 September, but the article is not well written. "Battle of Batapur", name and the article still remains dubious with mostly false information and unknown, that's why nominated for deletion.
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which is a "opinion" as heading says. This is the best source that creator got, this source only have passing mention of Batapur bridge. I wonder this should be called as "battle" or not, this is seems to be an
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No information available about this battle at all there is no mention in enough amount of sources that there should be a separate page or even a paragraph dedicated to this unknown battle if it matters.
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Brief mentions are not sufficient to establish notability, and brief mentions in the sources are all that I could find.
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The battle of Dograi has rightfully taken its place as an epic in the Indo-Pakistan conflict
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I think that we are confusing two things here. First we have to know what was Dograi.
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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which has been written in its entirety about this single battle. Regards
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that means we already got an article on this battle, which is known as
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Since Icchogil Canal was related which is related to battle of Lahore,
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Britain's betrayal in India: the story of the Anglo-Indian community
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which has been written in its entirety about this single battle.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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One can find mention of Battle of Batapur in following books
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I am sure when there are ENTIRE BOOKS written about a battle
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as most sources that mention it are just trivial mentions.
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Keep, Rename/Move and Create a Redirect while we are at it
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among Knowledge (XXG) contributors. Knowledge (XXG) has
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Your source also mentions Icchogil Canal on same page.
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Regards 128:on this page by adding ~~~~ at the end. 745:Missed opportunities Indo-Pak war 1965 861:Umm, you mean these sources perhaps? 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 54:the inclusion criteria for events 87: 570:: The actual battle is called ' 572:battle of dograi and batapore' 64:08:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC) 1: 973:05:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC) 956:13:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC) 931:11:36, 25 November 2015 (UTC) 913:10:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC) 895:16:21, 20 November 2015 (UTC) 855:16:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC) 833:15:42, 18 November 2015 (UTC) 816:19:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC) 789:14:41, 14 November 2015 (UTC) 766:05:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC) 124:on the part of others and to 73:08:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC) 741:, Volume 1 by Hari Ram Gupta 719:15:23, 9 November 2015 (UTC) 643:11:10, 9 November 2015 (UTC) 612:06:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC) 563:03:15, 9 November 2015 (UTC) 546:14:15, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 528:14:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 486:13:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 463:13:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 433:13:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 403:13:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 372:07:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC) 336:12:01, 6 November 2015 (UTC) 1011: 983:Please do not modify it. 739:India-Pakistan War, 1965 617:Keep, Rename and Develop 32:Please do not modify it. 621:Anthony, Frank (1969), 166:; accounts blocked for 136:single-purpose accounts 106:policies and guidelines 747:by Lachhman Singh Lehl 706:Battle of Ichogil Bund 704:, and there is also a 633:. 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