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These "sources" are the same kind obtained when a PR firm is hired. (The articles promote the business, sell the products, and quote the business owner on how wonderful the newest innovation is.) The page also hyperlinks to an adult-subscription site (for profit). Seems the intent of this
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Could you please revisit what you wrote, in light that the requester will read this discussion. I am sure that they not be very pleased to read your comment at all. I understand how you may have seen this, thought 'WTF?' and then made this comment in haste. Please reconsider --
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Thanks for that, I asked in case I'd missed something. I don't agree GNG has been met - none of those references pass the criteria for establishing notability. The books are mere mentions-in-passing.
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