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disingenuous since we have all made mistakes of various and sorted types, big and small, but most people try to hide theirs. Seriously, get off the soapbox, Andrew, it isn't helping anyone or anything. He made a minor mistake and clearly knows and admits it, bludgeoning the point isn't helpful but it is rude.
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Web content of no clear notability, a quick look on youtube shows that the first episode has had 4,100 views since the 18th. While things like page views/googlehits etc. aren't usable to show notability or lack of, it does indicate that this youtube series has a very minor following for something in
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AGF does not mean ignoring clear examples of bad judgement, but okay, I'll play along and take a look at your contributions per your request. Where should I start? The part on your user page where you link to examples of your favourite vandalism? Or how about the delicious tidbit a week ago where
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What CSD criteria would you delete it under? It's got enough content to not qualify for A7, the YouTube channel probably exists (though it's not notable) so you can't do G3, not particularly vicious enough for a G10 or really non-neutral advertising to get a G11. Your best best is for a snow delete,
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If that's your understanding of A7, then you need to stay away from Articles for Creation, voluntarily or otherwise. A7 is nothing to do with article length. You also need to make sure to actually check sources. Unsourced inflammatory content about real people is a significant legal problem for
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per GNG. And I'm not going to complain about a mistake, since we all make them. And I'm not going to complain about AfC since I haven't volunteered to help out in this understaffed area. And I'm certainly not going to question anyone's competence or faith because not only is that incivil, it is
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My understanding is that A7 is for articles like "Flopsy is my pet rabbit. I feed him twice a day and clean his hutch". I'd probably only call A7 on long articles if they were borderline incomprehensible gibberish. The article does assert importance - it's a specific web TV show (or at least the
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you tell a new user to violate copyright by uploading newspaper scans and then whine when Roger (quite rightly) tells you not to do that? Dear me, it's such a scrumptuous buffet I scarecely know where to start! Regarding your second point, I never said A7 and A10 are the same ("You
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need..."), and it's probably best not to call attention to that, as you're coming dangerously close to admitting that you knowingly created an attack article as opposed to a non-notable one, which is, uh, pretty bad. I'm going to say this in bold so it sinks in:
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This should have never gotten through our processes and should have been a G3 candidate on first sight (and would have been if not for falsified sources and the amount of editors who don't want to go anywhere near content involving this series; even then, do some
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and go and have a look through the entire history of my contributions to see just how many AfC articles I have declined due to sourcing problems, or how many responses I have given on the help desk about lack of notability and sourcing.
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It doesn't matter how long the article is to qualify for deletion under A7, just that it is web content that "does not indicate why its subject is important or significant". The article does not do so, thus it would be eligible for
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Nobody's asking or expecting you to have complete ultimate knowledge of every one of Knowledge (XXG)'s one jillion policy pages, but it's a good idea to really watch the major important ones (paricularly the CSD's,
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this AfD - so don't assume I want this article kept. Also, "Unsourced inflammatory content about real people" is G10 or a BLP PROD, NOT an A7. Get your CSDs right. I'm going to say this in bold so it sinks in :
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sources! This mistake happened because I saw the sources, I checked them, but made an erroneous assumption that this article and an unrelated one were the same thing. You seem to have forgotten I
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as unnotable web content. The sources are, as pointed out, falsified, and the web series has no claim of notability. 17:37, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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its third series. Exactly why Bad Girls Club's material was copied into this article in the first place I don't know, but this needs to go.
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#Review of Knowledge (XXG) talk:Articles for creation/Martin_Shervington
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If I didn't know those policies, I wouldn't have thought to AfD it in the first place! In fact, doing it this way round is
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and a slap on the wrists for any and all editors who let it get through Articles For Creation (seriously, what the hell?)
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the author to death and finally tighten AfC to quick-fail submissions not meeting at least basic standards. —
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and copyvios), especially when advising newbies and/or dealing with potentially legally sensitive areas.
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really exists, and this looks like some sort of parody / attack on it which is itself unsourced.
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more than necessary until you're absolutely convinced what they're doing is motivated malice. --
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that "Bad Girls Club" was a sanitised name for mainstream television. However, it appears that
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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crufters, only this time involving a $ 3 YouTube parody that doesn't need an article here.
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with no reliable sources at all. Why was this submission accepted in the first place?
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I reckon. Bear in mind there's a newbie writing an article behind this, so don't
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the Foundation, and you're enabling it. That's absolutely not acceptable.
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and look at the links and content). Yet another godawful article from the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Maybe everyone needs to drop it, and just let the process work.
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Unsourced attacks on living people give WMF lawyers ulcers.
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on the grounds it had multiple sources from TV Guide, and
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Speedy deletes are hostile to newbies and scare them away
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I'm with Dennis on this one. You are being particularly
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Don't do them again, ever, under any circumstances.
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You must make sure your picture respects copyrights
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