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703:. She has received significant (i.e. more than passing) coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the the subject (see above). The articles specifically report on her speeches, her campaigns and her activities. A simple GNews search turns up dozens of additional articles, some passing and some significant. Some might argue that such coverage is routine for an ambassador, but that argument simply supports a claim of presumptive notability.
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