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290:. Mooretwin may mention "numerous secondary sources", but he has failed to provide any which are of substantial quality to meet general notability guidelines; what is there at the minute is nothing but run-of-the-mill match reports and transfer news - which fails 166: 517:
As you say, Guideline not policy and it doesn't take into consideration players playing at the highest level of Irish soccer. Your argument above about teams from Somalia and Vatican City doesn't hold weight.
537:"Policy" and "guideline" is nothing but semantics - WP:ATHLETE says "This page documents an English Knowledge notability guideline. It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow." 573: 160: 127: 614:, but I think Ireland is a lot closer to such criteria than it is to the leagues in "Monserrat, Vatican City, Somalia or Guam", and is close enough to warrant inclusion. 315: 100: 95: 104: 87: 463:
say that "highest level" football is enough? If that was the case, we should have articles on players from Monserrat, Vatican City, Somalia, Guam etc.
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Here we go again the pedants at work. There are over 1300 LOI players. He is playing at the highest level in Ireland. Change your guidelines.
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If you want to delete this one, shouldn't you also nominate the whole squad, all the others who haven't played for a pro club?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I thought you would - you and divs at the Footy Cabal and yer pick and mix approach to football notability.--
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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and because he is playing in the top division in Ireland which is notable per
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as it's currently written but there is a weak consensus that he passes
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
397:- I've had a second look at the article and I see he's won the 401:; I suppose that's enough to give him sporting notablity. 631:
has played at the highest level of football In Ireland.
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Fails WP:ATH as Irish league isn't fully professional
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