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789:. Or in the five years since. Check out the case and the WOP project archives and talk pages. You'll see that the proposal you make has been attempted, numerous times, with no meeting of the minds between the wikipedians and the longevity hobbyists. As I understand it, the professional longevity folks have abandoned Knowledge, in favor of creating their own wiki using the wikia platform. 843:-specific consensus but no one actually does the work of proposing one (short of one character doing it for Tillman's AFD). It's not everyone's job to go through rounds and rounds of making up our own set of arguments to delay what we think should be done. Why don't the supporters of these biographies evaluate them and see if there's any they think are problematic? There must be some in 888:, the default position should be to redirect these "oldest person" articles to an appropriate list, where a description of a sentence or two may be added in addition to the subject's name, date of birth, place of birth, date of death and place of death -- assuming those datapoints can be reliably verified and sourced per 755:
It's been a problematic area and there's been a spotlight on these articles. Since about half (being generous) are being redirected at least, it's an indication that stand-alone articles aren't in line with current policy. I see this similar to the old fictional or Pokemon characters or the like
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Oldest living person in Georgia as well as the 2nd oldest living person in the world at the time of her death. Several sources provide sufficent coverage. And the nominator is just playing stupid because he knows exactly what "verified" means. A person's age is "verified" if their age has been
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If you see a problem, do you not think that a more sensible option would have been to have a more general discussion about what subjects do and don't deserve an article, assess the general consensus, and then move forward from there, rather than nominating countless articles for deletion? --
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What should the discussion be? "I think these articles should be redirected or deleted"/"No, I disagree" on them in a group and then the same thing individually? There's been a group of claim that
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I'm not sure why so many longevity articles are being nominated for AfD. It is an accomplishment to live for such a long time and it's an area of interest to some. Just saying.
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Really? The 2nd oldest person in the world isn't notable? I beg to differ. She died over 6 years ago so sourcing will be more difficult, but not a reason to delete this page.--
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A strong claim of notability, with appropriate reliable and verifiable sources to back it up, in an article providing significant coverage of the subject.
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as another "born, lived a really long time, died" article. Longevity should not confer notability unless something notable was achieved in those years.
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Please review more carefully. There have been motions in the case since the first sanctions were rendered, one motion was decided earlier this year.
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confirmed by documentation from several points in their life (from childhood until old age) that support the person's claimed age being true.
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African-American isn't sufficiently notable. Of the five sources here, two are non-reliable links to geneaology.com and the other two are
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I do not see evidence of the type of coverage that would satisfy the criteria for a stand-alone article under
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already covers these biographies (I don't think anyone really believes that) and then another asking for a
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while impressive to live that long, I'm not seeing and other claim to nobility or notability.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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that even you don't think have any reliable sources that support their claims. Why don't
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Most other people who was world's second-oldest person have articles. (as an example,
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Barack Obama - First African American President (The Georgia Star, 8 November 2008)
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to an appropriate longevity list. The two census data search links are prohibited
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propose a notability criteria that actually reflects these discussions here? --
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coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources about the subject per
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You mean like the conversation that was attempted before and during
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Georgia women make history (Miller County Liberal, 14 January 2009)
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disputes: we're moving from individual pages to general lists. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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113-year-old woman dies in Georgia (USA Today, 21 January 2009)
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World's second-oldest human is good enough. I pick YESPAGE. --
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In answer to David-in-the-capital's challenge, I pick NOPAGE.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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list of United States of America-related deletion discussions
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Point taken. I've thus listed those pages for deletion. --
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What list? There is no list of the second any of those. --
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oldest "verified" person (whatever verified means) and the
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