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843:-specific consensus but no one actually does the work of proposing one (short of one character doing it for Tillman's AFD). It's not everyone's job to go through rounds and rounds of making up our own set of arguments to delay what we think should be done. Why don't the supporters of these biographies evaluate them and see if there's any they think are problematic? There must be some in
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It's been a problematic area and there's been a spotlight on these articles. Since about half (being generous) are being redirected at least, it's an indication that stand-alone articles aren't in line with current policy. I see this similar to the old fictional or
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