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457:. Any old shareware or freeware utility can be included on a PC Utilities disk -- that's the point, that's what they do. That doesn't in itself constitute notability, particularly since outside of PC Utilities, there is absolutely no mention of this software anywhere. I couldn't dig up any reviews or anything. The existence of articles such as that, if they can be found, would make a cause for notability. As for the advertising claim, I was simply speculated that the page was created for advertising purposes. Although product marketing material is definitely grounds for article deletion, I don't see that here. I do speculate, however, that this Knowledge (XXG) article itself is intended to create notability for the product. 380:. It appears we have a case of a very well formatted article for a topic that is completely non-notable. There are no third-pary references that I could find other than Download.com where anybody can upload their shareware. There doesn't appear to be an active significant community based on a quick visit to the site's forum, even though this isn't necessarily an indicator of notability. I question if this Knowledge (XXG) article is intended as advertising since there is both a free and Pro version of this software, and the website also solicits Paypal donations. -- 434:
means that the sources address the subject directly in detail. I don't see that from the PC Utilities entry. Moreover, the material on the DVD related to BPL (except perhaps for the phrasing in that one-sentence coverdisc browser blurb) was provided by its creator, and thus does not qualify as being
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disc as it would be totally foolish an action to write full page description on cover disc. Also, why it is totally ignored? Why empty handed claims of non notiblity and that I'm advertising for it? I'm not one of programmers making BPL... Forums are inactive because of bad choice of forum software.
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If you don't recognize the PC Utilities entry(dated 2009) then I seriously doubt that you are according to wikipedia policy. Notability is Notability. It have entry at PC Utilities which is an third party source. And it isn't logical to say that it have only '2 lined' coverage on PC Utilities' cover
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Previous article was deleted in 2007 and it is not good to estimate BPL's current status by that. It become notable long ago in 2009. The given links show it at PC Utilities Magazine. Which is a reliable source.
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this looks to me like an article where the creator with a minimal guidance could demonstrate notability and significantly improve the coverage of the current article according to WP criteria.
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Learn to create a great program in around 20 minutes with this beginners-friendly BASIC programming tool
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Why, yes, Version 1.0 for Windows was included on the "coverdisc" DVD included with issue #99 of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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index isn't going to cut it. We need news articles and reviews about this software. --
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http://bpl.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1208778384
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See this. Entry to PC utilities is something to be called notable... --
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of April 3, 2008, and this is all what they had to say about it: "
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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