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If this AfD decides to keep the article please do some work to correct the undue weight now given to his college plagiarism and his having to quit his job on the Washington Post. If he is notable it is as an Internet commentator, not a dishonest college student. (I will not edit the article since I
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I am not arguing for deletions based on policy, but rather, (a) this person is utterly unimportant, (b) the controversy around him so minor, and (c) the individual's minimal accomplishments -- even if he has received press coverage in the past. A good analogy would be high school sports figures, who
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of the first several paragraphs of the Washington Post article, which is clearly about Domenech and meets our definition of significant coverage from a reliable source. From what little I saw of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution article (the first two paragraphs
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Lots of college students plagiarise. I'm glad that one got caught and hope he serves as an example to warn others. However he does not really have the kind of permanent notability that WP is looking for.
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If RedState isn't major, then Domenech's notability rests with a single, scandalous event and I'd agree with Edison, that the article should go, with information merged into the scandals article.
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WP is not the news, but news coverage is a criteria we use to assess notablity. The reason he held his job for such a brief period was because of the scandal.
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An Early Eye for Political Punditry; Teenager's Pointed Views Play in Conservative Circles; The Washington Post. Washington, D.C.: May 7, 2000. p. V.01
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ELECTION 2004: Rising stars in the Republican Party; TOM BAXTER, ANDREA JONES. The Atlanta Journal - Constitution. Atlanta, Ga.: Aug 29, 2004. p. A.7
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BLOGGING YOUR MIND INTERNET WEBLOGS PROVIDE EASY FORUM FOR IDEAS AND OPINIONS; Evansville Courier & Press. Evansville, Ind.: Nov 7, 2003. p. M.15
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VIRGINIANS ARE JOUSTING IN ONLINE 'BLOGOSPHERE'; Pamela Stallsmith. Richmond Times - Dispatch. Richmond, Va.: Aug 24, 2003. p. A.1
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The article says he was a co-founder of the site. He only held his job with the Post for 3 days. WP is not the news. Thanks.
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co-founder of a significant website, writing for a major national publication, center of a significant plagiarism scandal.
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before his plaigarism was exposed. I say this even though I find the article quite satisfying and enjoyable to read.
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This person seems to only be notable as the co-founder of a website and for being asked to resign from his job.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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only cites itself and two other blogs, except for the Washington Post story on their problems with Domenech.
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because its subject is known only for one episode which shows him in a bad light. He did not qualify under
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And that news story is one of three reasons I'm voting keep as I feel it establishes sufficent notability.
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Maybe he has a special talent for fooling newspaper people. The Washington Post even gave him a job :-)
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The article contains almost no information on RedState. 90% of it is about his job with the Post.
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Will Beback, could you please provide links to those articles? I'm having trouble finding them.
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Online. Even without the plagiarism flap, he would be encyclopedic for the RedState founding.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Then... add information about it. Deletion is not a substitute for improvement.
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That was my point. The scandal and his resignation were just a news story.
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when he was just 18 years old. That source alone means the subject meets
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do in fact receive press coverage but are also utterly unimportant.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I've added information from the Washington Post article.
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was the one who nominated it for deletion.) Thanks.
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where he will feel right at home. This article is a
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Caknuck
07:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Ben Domenech
Ben Domenech
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Steve Dufour
02:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
RedState
Washingtonpost.com
The National Review
FCYTravis
03:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Steve Dufour
03:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
FCYTravis
03:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Robertissimo
03:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Gamaliel

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