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If this AfD decides to keep the article please do some work to correct the undue weight now given to his college plagiarism and his having to quit his job on the
Washington Post. If he is notable it is as an Internet commentator, not a dishonest college student. (I will not edit the article since I
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I am not arguing for deletions based on policy, but rather, (a) this person is utterly unimportant, (b) the controversy around him so minor, and (c) the individual's minimal accomplishments -- even if he has received press coverage in the past. A good analogy would be high school sports figures, who
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Lots of college students plagiarise. I'm glad that one got caught and hope he serves as an example to warn others. However he does not really have the kind of permanent notability that WP is looking for.
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Domenech's notability rests with a single, scandalous event and I'd agree with Edison, that the article should go, with information merged into the scandals article.
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