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That is a complete misreading of FOOTYN. The guideline says that a club is notable if it (i.e. that very same club) plays in the national cup. The fact that this club might have players who might theoretically be able to play for a completely different club in the national cup is irrelevant to this
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Manchester is inherently notable because Man U are the Premier League champions? That's possibly the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen in an AfD.....
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While well put together, this still has no indication of importance (speedy tags were removed). A "social" football club of a school of 1,000 students, that plays at a field that can host a capacity crowd of 200. Note there is an unapproved version sitting in
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Wairarapa Secondary Schools Premier Division in 2012 and the strength of
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