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358:. This doesn't need an article by itself, lack of notability. This is no more notable than me suggesting to my state congressman that there should be a state amendment, then making an article about it on Knowledge (XXG). If, in fact, it has been "widely discussed" (as pointed out by an above poster), then such links should be provided in the article. As it stands, the only reference on the page which mentions it is an article written by Barnett himself. 531:.) It seems to be a pretty widespread Tea Party idea which has been adopted by some state and federal politicians. But I'm not sure that that makes the rest of Barnett's "Bill of Federalism" notable, since the rest of it doesn't seem to have garnered similar attention (most of the press coverage of the Repeal Amendment doesn't mention it). So... perhaps create a substantive article to replace the redirect at 222:. Barnett himself is obviously notable (full professor, publishes regularly in peer-reviewed journals, well-known in libertarian political circles, etc.), but the more difficult question is whether the proposal itself has standalone notability. He seems to have written about it in some high-profile media outlets - including 324:
been introduced as bills in state legislatures. This is not just one law professor's proposal, but a set of proposals that have been widely discussed, critiqued, and expanded in the print media and blogosphere and among political activists and politicians. A Google search for "Bill of Federalism" in
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In short, I'd say the project is notable enough to be mentioned in the article on Barnett, but it isn't (as far as I can tell) notable enough to merit a standalone article, or this amount of detail. However, I'll change to a keep if someone unearths some substantial coverage of the proposals, either
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First of all, "Bill of Federalism" gets about 3200 hits, not 79,000 (when I just checked it a moment ago - and some of these are about something else, a "federalism bill" from 2002 comes up). Secondly, I still wouldn't be that convinced of its notability. Because its gotten out of one state house
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in the Wall Street Journal - but I can't find much in the way of independent third-party coverage, other than the John Birch Society (hardly a reputable source) critiquing the proposal. The article cites various reported cases and law journal articles in explaining the constitutional background and
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committee and has support from a governor, doesn't make it notable enough to be an article separate from the person who started it. Keep in mind, it would take 3/4 of ALL 50 states for it to be part of the Constitution. At this point, it seems highly unlikely.
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Lots of things are debated by the public. That doesn't make them notable or worthy of a Knowledge (XXG) article. However, none of the responders to this discussion are saying the topic should disappear, rather it should be included in Barnett's article.
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Vanity article, non-notable subject. Appears to be a summary of an article/proposal by a college professor on how he would like to see the US Constitution amended. None of the citations except one mention the "Bill of Federalism" itself. The
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purpose of Barnett's proposal, but none of these citations are about the proposal itself, and they therefore have no bearing on whether it is notable. On a related point, much of the current article is
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makes sense to me. Barnett is notable and his ideas have gotten a lot of press, but until the amendments actually get introduced in Congress or something, they're just a professor's ideas.
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Seems like a rationale for improving the article rather than redirecting it, as I suppose the redirect will radically reduce the amount of content on the topic.--
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magazine, the Volokh Conspiracy, Tea Party sites, etc. The Repeal Amendment, which is the most widely discussed component of the proposals, has garnered over
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Is it for us to judge whether the amendment is likely to be enacted? If it is part of public debate, shouldn't it be included here on that ground alone?--
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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hits on Google and has been publicly supported by prominent politicians, including the governor of Virginia,
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in the media or in the peer-reviewed academic literature, which wasn't written by Barnett himself.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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seems to be the best solution to what is essentially a vanity article.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution
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is notable in itself. (That page currently redirects to
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