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1244:- Non notable. I have no idea why so many people think that schools should be automatically included no matter what. It's not like its a university which conducts research, nor has it any notable alumni, nor has some major event ever happened there. So the argument is that this school exists, well so does the fire station, community centre, newsagents, corner shops and public toilets. -
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So all school articles belong to a magical subset of articles in which no lower bounds of quality exist? They can never be bad enough to merit deletion? All that verbiage about "don't take it personally" and how AfD is a constructive process in the AfD literature just doesn't apply to the magical
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I don't think the normal GFDL attribution requirement applies here. We're not using the text of the school article, we're just adding a mention of the school to the district. Simple facts, like a school name, by themselves, aren't copyrightable (as far as I know). There's really no text in the
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which was comitted by the same IP as the creator of this article. I found this article by checking up the contributions of that IP after reverting that vandalism. Enough time passed between the two events that I would not necessarily assume they were by the same person.
426:: It's a predicate nominative now that it's verifiable. A fact is not an article, and before someone says "improve it," improving at this point is functionally no different from "write it from scratch," except that it means carrying a vandal attack in the edit history.
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Point taken. I suppose in the long run too when someone does get the urge to write an actual article about this school too it makes it a tad easier to rewrite it. Granted I'd rather history be gone, but that is secondary in my mind to the merge so
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This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.
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and possibly contact the administration of
Wayzata High School in Marion, Minnesota per the anonymous user's history. This is a high school student so it's not appropriate to repeat here, but I think you'll find the vandal's
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Why would it have to be "more notable than other schools"? We're writing an encyclopedia, not hosting some sort of twisted notability competition. Virtually all schools are notable, and there's no contradiction there.
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I think the article is a hoax, no indication of the putative school's location, the write-up suggests the editor intends the article to be humourous, ironic, or some such thing. School cannot be verified. Recommend
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Once again, it is notable among the millions of schools worldwide because out of those schools, Birchview is among the rare few that are important educational institutions serving
Plymouth, Minnesota.
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I see that sentence, however, it doesn't actually state why the school is notable among the millions of schools worldwide such that it merits its own article in a general encyclopaedia.
1093:(To clarify: We don't write articles on individual city halls, fire stations, or any other institutions of local government... except for cities with large metropolitan areas.) --
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this substub with the school district article, unless someone steps in to add a good dollop of facts verifiable from secondary sources. (This is the position I signed up to at
100:: hoax? "putative school"? "cannot be verified"? When I did a Google search on the term "Birchview", this school in Plymouth, MN was the third item on the search result. See
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How so? The proposal says 3 or more verifiable sentences. This article does not meet that criteron or any other being discussed. It should be merged per the proposal.
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771:. Anyone who hasn't participated in that debate yet, get over there, find out what's being proposed, and make your voice heard!) —
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per george accept i dont know what is a predicit nominitive is but it sound reely BAD so i say deth to predicit nomintives!!!!!!!
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Birchview Elementary School this might be.
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Smerging it into the town or district article would also satisfy me. --
1156:. I see this page as much more likely to grow than the underdeveloped
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The history of the redirecting article is to be maintained.
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to keep all school articles. Can you point me to this?
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NN ankle biter farm, article far below WP standards
225:Birchview Elementary School (Plymouth, Minnesota)
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348:"Schools are generally kept as policy"
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