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80: 455:, and name 2-3 specific examples for unbiased in-depth coverage from reliable sources. Marketing sites masquerading as independent reviewers don't count. Simple re-publications of company information, even on otherwise reliable sites, don't establish notability either, unless those "reviews" provide additional independent details and research from a qualified author. 544:
are offered services by CMS Critic, aptly labelled as "Advertising and Services". Offers include useful features like pre-review audits, "fixing up" reviewed issues before publishing them, and even opting out entirely from a negative review. Some of those offers are a blatant violation of basic
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which happens to be an important news website about CMS software. This site is known for its unbiased and well researched editorial content which is created by authors who are regarded as an authority on CMS software. I don't think any of the references are from marketing websites portraying
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Non-notable software. Not one of the 16 listed sources is reliable (blogs, self-published information, PR interviews). The initial PROD was rejected by a second SPA account (with 2 edits). No in-depth coverage found via Google.
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lack of good coverage as show by GermanJoe's reference analysis, even the above user, whose comment can be treated as a "delete" despite his recommendation, seems to agree.
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There are a few sources for this, and it appears to be an established company, but none of the sources are terribly deep or reliable. So reluctantly keeping the the
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Ref #3 is a blogger review by "Emma McGowan: #feminist #blogger #sexpositive" with a "Love/hate relationship with #startups" (quoted from Twitter account).
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Ref #1 CMS Critic - a quick Google search reveals, that CMS Critic is not seen as unbiased (not even within the branche). More specifically:
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Given that the article is about a niche software, it has been cited with good and reliable references. The article should not be deleted.--
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Some of the references do provide deep and unbiased coverage. The article is about a notable niche software and should not be deleted.--
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Ref #7 is authored by a student for Anglistic, Americanistic und Sociology - none of which provides expert knowledge of CMS systems.
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Ref #6 is arguably the best reference in this mess, but contains only a short 1-paragraph summary with a very basic description.
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Some of the concerns about references stated above are valid, however i recommend that the article not be deleted.--
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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none of those sources except #6 meets Knowledge's criteria for an independent reliable source
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Ref #2 is a general product overview, clearly provided by the company (promotional language)
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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Some references are from company's own blog, however many references are from
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Not mentioned ref numbers are repetitions of listed cases. So no,
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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single-purpose accounts
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