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Knowledge. This is for a number of reasons such as it being difficult to track rankings and because there are so many different "lists" on there - after a while the categories grow so specific that achieving a good sales rank isn't a hugely monumental task, especially if the work is given out for free - which is the case here. Additional reasons for this stem from the same issue as buying Twitter followers - people can and have found ways to artificially alter their sales rankings on Amazon. Again, not saying that he's doing it, just that people
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the ability to sink into obscurity because they never became all that well known. Ridder has apparently only had one role, a background character without a name (and likely non-speaking), and has self-published books that has never received any sort of coverage in independent RS. My concern is that cultivating a draftspace article will just result in an article that will likely remain in the draftspace for years, if not forever. As far as the
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it is upcoming, we do not know it will be published. That he has some role in a film with a 2018 release date may be verifiable, but the role does not look to be significant, and even if it was he would need two such roles to count as notable as an actor, but they need to be significant, and his role in the 2018 film does not look to be. In fat, even if he has clearly been filmed, it is possible it will be cut from the final film.
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I don't have any huge issue with drafting the content, but the problem with this is that there's no way to predict that he will gain future roles. Sometimes people can and do go on to bigger and better things, but in most cases a creative professional will never gain that foothold and will never have
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That said, the role is "Hong Kong Office Worker" so it's not the type that would make him notable enough to keep on that basis alone or even mention in the main article for the film. A search brings up nothing that would establish notability, as he doesn't seem to have gained any sort of coverage for
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His one work to date, a short story, is not enough to pass notability as a writer. I agree there are lots of other articles on non-notable writers, but this is not a reason to keep this one. His upcoming novel may at some point be key to his notability, but not at this point. For that matter, since
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and he was even visible in one scene (my sisters and I were uncredited extras only visible in the distance during a later scene), but he is not automatically notable because he was part of the movie. Notability simply isn't inherited by any association with notable films or people.
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