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include their opinion of an athlete in an article about the subject-that has no bearing on whether the publication is a reliable source or not. Anyway, it does not matter if you think the coverage is routine or if he is a notable athlete, what matters is how
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Promotional? What are these websites selling? If you read the link you cited in context it refers to websites that are by nature devoted to promoting a certain idea, not individual articles that might reflect the author's point of view. In any case, it isn't at all uncommon for sportswriters to
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of college hockey players in the U.S. Very very few of them will have in depth detailed looks at their careers published in multiple reliable sources as Mr. Haczyk has had. I don't see how you can say this is "routine" at all. It does not matter whether he meets
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